War Pass (102 BSF Sunday)

[sumitas]

ummm, maybe take the 2 longest odds and bet them underneath War Pass for an ex.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by sumitas

ummm, maybe take the 2 longest odds and bet them underneath War Pass for an ex.

Oh quit it... you know that Dylan's Choice will walk all over this field.

[sumitas]

With a 10# weight advantage you might be right.

[Monarchos1]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Post Time Odds? 1-20? At best? Or does somebody talk themselves into Web Gem and bring it up to a juicy 1-9?

Given that Web Gem was owned by LaPenta until a day or two ago and clearly his "sale" was simply to facilitate filling this race for War Pass, I won't be using this one on my ticket.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

What kind of ticket are you going to construct in a race with a horse who is going to be 1/9? How do you bet a race like that?

Show bet

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Monarchos1

Given that Web Gem was owned by LaPenta until a day or two ago and clearly his "sale" was simply to facilitate filling this race for War Pass, I won't be using this one on my ticket.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Anyone else want to see a Sumitas-Cajun handicapping show? Someone get TVG on the line.

I hope you realize I was kidding.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I was also.

I figured, but didn't want to be laughed at when Dylan's Choice was still trying to finish this race on Monday morning.

[miraja2]

I am sure that this is probably old news that I somehow missed, but why exactly does Zito want to run him in this spot instead of an actual race? What point does this serve?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by miraja2

I am sure that this is probably old news that I somehow missed, but why exactly does Zito want to run him in this spot instead of an actual race? What point does this serve?

You know, there was once a time where horses prepped in easy spots and every race wasn't a competitive stake race. There's no reason to seek out a difficult spot at this point. He will have plenty of those opportunities down the road.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You know, there was once a time where horses prepped in easy spots and every race wasn't a competitive stake race. There's no reason to seek out a difficult spot at this point. He will have plenty of those opportunities down the road.

I guess it doesn't really matter either way, but it seems at this point that there would be plenty of 3yo stakes races for this colt that would not qualify as either difficult or competetitve.

[outofthebox]

Originally Posted by miraja2

I am sure that this is probably old news that I somehow missed, but why exactly does Zito want to run him in this spot instead of an actual race? What point does this serve?

When i was a kid in so. cal i remember hopping a bus to Santa Anita on a rainy weekday to watch Affirmed in an "allowance" race for his 3yo debut.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by miraja2

I guess it doesn't really matter either way, but it seems at this point that there would be plenty of 3yo stakes races for this colt that would not qualify as either difficult or competetitve.

It's his first start in what may well be a very demanding year. He has the advantage of being under no pressure whatsoever of having to prove himself.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by outofthebox

When i was a kid in so. cal i remember hopping a bus to Santa Anita on a rainy weekday to watch Affirmed in an "allowance" race for his 3yo debut.

Seattle Slew did the same thing.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It's his first start in what may well be a very demanding year. He has the advantage of being under no pressure whatsoever of having to prove himself.

I get that, and I get that it has been done in the past.
I guess I just don't exactly understand the point to it.
It seems to me like if Zito had announced weeks in advance that he was targeting a pretty low-level stakes race with this colt, most of the mid-level 3yos would probably have avoided that race and he could have landed himself in another very easy spot with a bigger purse than what he is seeing here.
Again, I know it doesn't really matter either way, I just don't see any real disadvantage to running in a stakes race instead.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by miraja2

I get that, and I get that it has been done in the past.
I guess I just don't exactly understand the point to it.
It seems to me like if Zito had announced weeks in advance that he was targeting a pretty low-level stakes race with this colt, most of the mid-level 3yos would probably have avoided that race and he could have landed himself in another very easy spot with a bigger purse than what he is seeing here.
Again, I know it doesn't really matter either way, I just don't see any real disadvantage to running in a stakes race instead.

Problem is, where can you find such a race around one turn? With the Holy Bull being turned into a Preakness prep and the Hutcheson and Swale moved really early in the racing calendar there is no such race anymore.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You know, there was once a time where horses prepped in easy spots and every race wasn't a competitive stake race. There's no reason to seek out a difficult spot at this point. He will have plenty of those opportunities down the road.

There was once a time? That sounds like today to me.

[Danzig]

war pass has the necessary earnings....he can build a good foundation without going after other graded races. better to find the right race conditions, rather than chasing a purse.

[XIIPointStables]

Looking forward to seeing him run this year. Was so fast last year in the two races I was lucky enough to see him live at Toga. Of course I bet against both times. I think he faced Slew's Tiznow in his maiden.

Fun to see if he can carry the speed to the classic distances.

[Smooth Operator]

Should be a nice long workout for the champ ... and something that should set him up nicely for the Tampa contest.