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![]() Just wondering what your take is.....
A.P. Indy Named Chef-de-Race Posted: 6:58 PM ET Steven A. Roman, Ph.D., creator of the Dosage Index, has named A.P. Indy an Intermediate/Classic Chef-de-Race. The move acknowledges the Lane’s End sire’s effect on the Thoroughbred breed, and means that descendants of A.P. Indy will have revised Dosage Index figures that reflect the stamina generally contributed by the son of Seattle Slew. The Dosage Index attempts to predict a horse’s aptitude for distance through particularly influential sires in his pedigree. http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com...TOKEN=80788055 http://www.chef-de-race.com/main_menu.htm |
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![]() It doesn't matter because you have to go too far back in the pedigree for too many horses now cause of their reluctance to add new horses to the chef-de-race list. About time they got around to adding AP Indy. Prior to this AP Indy had the same effect on your dosage as an unraced full brother would have.
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![]() For those not familiar with dosage, I'll post the exact formula on how to calculate it...
![]() Just add erratic dart tosses.
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![]() No. It doesn't matter. The next time a horse wins that doesn't qualify, they'll just revise the system again to make the horse qualify.
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![]() Dosage is absolute hackery.
It greatly delegitimizes pedigree handicapping. |
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![]() Obviously i know very little about it but what exactly does a horse have to accomplish to gain the title Chef de Race?
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The concept that you could apply mathematics to the stallions in a pedigree and gain a reasonable approximation of what sort of horse you will have I think is plausible. The way they go about it though is completely wrong. |
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Sort of what was alluded to here.....after his horse's win big races going long they get added. Frankly, it the ultimate redboarder's guide. Dosage is an anachronism now that people have become more sophisticated and legitimate techniques ( like speed figures ) are widespread for analyzing a horse's talent. |
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![]() Look at you two love birds co-existing so peacefully.
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![]() Sniper... the way they go about it is wrong..... how?
BTW..... how is it the ultimate redboarders guide? Not that it matters but which stallion(s)should be and are not? Again, I've just never really understood the big picture. Assumed it didn't matter but it's easy to make an assumption (even if it's correct) with next to no information..... |
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![]() Because it revises opinions after the race to tell you why a horse won.
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![]() I predict that Giacamo will not become a chef-de-race.
I predict. |
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![]() Thanks for your insight everyone.
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![]() Also, as Sniper was getting at, it doesn't make sense to say that a horse should be thrown out because he doesn't qualify when his sire hasn't even had enough crops to race to know what kind of sire he will be? What if Empire Maker sires the next five Derby winners? He still won't be on the list at that point and the dosage people will tell you that his horses don't qualify.
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