Top 5 Derby horses at this point

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Just want everyones opinion on their personal top 5 as of now for the derby, along with 5 sleepers each, i know its early i just want to get a look at what everyone is thinking, you dont have to put them in order just throw out names....

top 5.... nobizlikeshowbiz, street sense, ravel, great hunter, hard spun

sleepers.....air commander, law breaker, rags to riches, liquidity, summer doldrums

[miraja2]

How come Notional barely ever seems to get mentioned in any of these top 5 lists? He has looked solid in his last two stakes races, and people seem to forget that it did not look like CQ was going to get to him in the Risen Star even without the trouble. His sire was a G1 winner going 10f, so I wouldn't think pedigree would be the big knock on him.
Anyway, here is my Top 5 right now....in order.
1) Great Hunter
2) Street Sense
3) Ravel
4) Notional
5) Circular Quay

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

Just want everyones opinion on their personal top 5 as of now for the derby, along with 5 sleepers each, i know its early i just want to get a look at what everyone is thinking, you dont have to put them in order just throw out names....

top 5.... nobizlikeshowbiz, street sense, ravel, great hunter, hard spun

sleepers.....air commander, law breaker, rags to riches, liquidity, summer doldrums

Hard Spun in your top 5? I don't see that one at all.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Out of sight, out of mind I think. Although i personally don't like him, I can see why many do.

What don't you like about him?

[brianwspencer]

1. Street Sense
2. Notional
3. Great Hunter
4. Circular Quay
5. Sam P./Curlin

oops that was six

[Java Gold]

Cobalt Blue...who cares about the rest... huge futures at huge odds...


Java Gold

[declansharbor]

1) Street Sense
2) Scat Daddy
3) Great Hunter
4) Curlin
5) Any Given Saturday

Super sleeper- Grapelli... With a full field and a hot pace, this guy could make a run for it..Although his entrance into the derby seems unlikely due to graded earnings, I really believe this horse has a big upside.

[Grits]

By tomorrow at 6pm. ArlJim will have 42 combinations worked out with his top five.

I should be so wise to start early.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Grits

By tomorrow at 6pm. ArlJim will have 42 combinations worked out with his top five.

I should be so wise to start early.

haha, I said I start 2-3 weeks out thinking about the field and how I might attack it.

Tomorrow is too early even for me.

[Grits]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

haha, I said I start 2-3 weeks out thinking about the field and how I might attack it.

Tomorrow is too early even for me.

I'm teasing you--go get you another green beer.

[SOREHOOF]

1 Scat Daddio
2 NoBizz
3 Any Given Sat
4 Street Sense
5 Circ Q
Sleepers
1 Teuflesberg
2 Zangero
3 Going Ballistic
4 Cowtown Cat
5 Officer Rocket

I heard they make green beer by mixing blue beer with something yellow!

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Hard Spun in your top 5? I don't see that one at all.

it was either him or Notional and i just think that hard spun will be ok, he had 1 bad race as they all do, but i really do think he will bounce back, notional is a close 6th on my list, i did not put him on sleepers because he is not a sleeper he has won 2 stakes races in a row now

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by Java Gold

Cobalt Blue...who cares about the rest... huge futures at huge odds...


Java Gold

i truly belive that there is not much to like about this guy, personally im alot higher on air commander at this point

[jman5581]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

1. Street Sense
2. Notional
3. Great Hunter
4. Circular Quay
5. Sam P./Curlin

oops that was six

Sam!! I like this horse as well... I saw him win on closing day at CD this past November. He just seems like a scrappy, versatile horse. One of those types that if he can't win it you can at least put him underneath. But, I do think the way he is progressing he might peak in a little over a month, get a good trip and be a derby winner.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by jman5581

Sam!! I like this horse as well... I saw him win on closing day at CD this past November. He just seems like a scrappy, versatile horse. One of those types that if he can't win it you can at least put him underneath. But, I do think the way he is progressing he might peak in a little over a month, get a good trip and be a derby winner.

With the way he runs, I love that he's going to the Illinois Derby too.

He seems to be one of those horse who just can't quite seem to get the job done, but grinds and grinds, a style that can be effective in the Derby.

Hmmmm, grinds. Can't get the job done in preps. Still will get enough earnings to get in.

Giacomo Redux?!

[mclem10011]

1. Street Sense
2. Circular Quay
3. Great Hunter
4. Nobiz Like Shobiz
5. Notional
Sleepers in no particular order
Zanjero, Hard Spun, Adore The Gold, Any Given Saturday, Rags to Riches
Extremely hard to narrow down, i could throw 10 more in there easy! More preps to come, jockey decisions, of course the possibility of injuries (hope not), lots of intrigue still to play itself out in the next 6 weeks! Love this time of year!

[Samarta]

Street Sense
NoBiz
Notional
Curlin
Ravel

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Great Hunter
Circular Quay
Ravel
Street Sense
Scat Daddy

"Sleepers"
SAM P.
HARD SPUN
KING OF THE ROXY
RAGS TO RICHES???

Street Sense (even if he would have lost by the nose)
Nobiz
Great Hunter
Scat Daddy
Circular Quay

[Cajungator26]

1.) Scat Daddy
2.) Hard Spun
3.) Ketchikan
4.) Any Given Saturday
5.) Zanjero

Some others I like:

Street Sense
Stormello
Bwana Bull
Liquidity
Nobiz Like Shobiz

Still too far away to determine...