Most Impressive Winner of Sunshines Millions

eajinabi · #1 01-28-2007, 03:51 AM

SHAGGY MINE

That was sick!!

2Hot4TV · #2 01-28-2007, 08:31 AM

Smokey Stover draws an outside post and beat a very good feild of top level sprinters. He is owned and trained by the team that brought you "Lost in the Fog." Very Impressive race.

The Bid · #3 01-28-2007, 08:46 AM

Is Shaggy Mane the Chatlos piece? If so I agree with you for sure, that was sick.

Kasept · #4 01-28-2007, 08:54 AM

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Is Shaggy Mane the Chatlos piece? If so I agree with you for sure, that was sick.

Mane is the Chatlos.. and it was stunning... But speed isn't stopping at Gulfstream; it hadn't all this week.. Witness McCann's Mojave as Exhibit B. Hadn't run a race good enough to win against that group in 18 months. For that reason, I'd have to add Storm in May's win to the list of impressive winners... Pace was insane in that 7th (21.2, 43.4), yet Idiot Proof and TX Voyager managed to hang on for PL-SH...

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Smokey Stover draws an outside post and beat a very good feild of top level sprinters. He is owned and trained by the team that brought you "Lost in the Fog." Very Impressive race.

The outside post is/was an advantage there... Stover was terrific, and the key to nabbing the lucrative P4..

hoovesupsideyourhead · #5 01-28-2007, 08:56 AM

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Smokey Stover draws an outside post and beat a very good feild of top level sprinters. He is owned and trained by the team that brought you "Lost in the Fog." Very Impressive race.

AGREED ..THAT WAS NICE..byk tuned me into that 107...time in his pps..thanks steve..

2Hot4TV · #6 01-28-2007, 10:13 AM

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AGREED ..THAT WAS NICE..byk tuned me into that 107...time in his pps..thanks steve..

I was at Santa Anita just to watch Smokey race. I have lost and won money on him and yesterday was a very good day. Bordonero has to have the lead and Mig was going to play him off PT2 and I knew when Mig pushed the button that Bordonero would hang and Smokey would eat them up if he didn't bounce from his last race. I played Icy Atlantic to beat Lava man and didn't play any place money on him. It still was a good day.

Sightseek · #7 01-28-2007, 10:14 AM

Shaggy Mane & Miss Shop because I had them both!

Independent George · #8 01-28-2007, 11:22 AM

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I was at Santa Anita just to watch Smokey race. I have lost and won money on him and yesterday was a very good day. Bordonero has to have the lead and Mig was going to play him off PT2 and I knew when Mig pushed the button that Bordonero would hang and Smokey would eat them up if he didn't bounce from his last race. I played Icy Atlantic to beat Lava man and didn't play any place money on him. It still was a good day.

I thought Icy Atlantic had a pretty bad trip; got no room until the bitter end and still only lost by a little.

blackthroatedwind · #9 01-28-2007, 11:25 AM

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I thought Icy Atlantic had a pretty bad trip; got no room until the bitter end and still only lost by a little.

I thought Go Between's trip was MUCH tougher. While Icy Atlantic may have had to wait for room he also saved all the ground while not only was Go Between wide he was also steadied, while wide, on the far turn.

If you think Icy Atlantic ran well then what did you think of May Night's trip?

golfer · #10 01-28-2007, 11:30 AM

Andy, I'm trying to figure out if May Night got stuck inside of Memorette, or did Gomez just run out of horse, and that's why he couldn't get through? When he stayed inside, and began to swing out at the top of the stretch, I thought he would win by open lengths.

blackthroatedwind · #11 01-28-2007, 11:34 AM

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Andy, I'm trying to figure out if May Night got stuck inside of Memorette, or did Gomez just run out of horse, and that's why he couldn't get through? When he stayed inside, and began to swing out at the top of the stretch, I thought he would win by open lengths.

I agree, it's confusing, and one could say she just didn't have enough horse to explode through the possible hole. But, she may have been intimidated and never really had clear room. It's a debatable situation.

I suppose she not that good and considering she saved all the ground she was hardly impressive either way. Why was Durkin all worked up about her break? She bobbled very slightly and he delivered a monologue as though she broke five slow.

The Bid · #12 01-28-2007, 11:35 AM

They both had bad trips, however I dont think any horse in the field had a worse trip than Lava Man, he lost a ton of ground going wide and was still under mild urging to win. Hes a better grass horse.

Independent George · #13 01-28-2007, 11:37 AM

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I thought Go Between's trip was MUCH tougher. While Icy Atlantic may have had to wait for room he also saved all the ground while not only was Go Between wide he was also steadied, while wide, on the far turn.

If you think Icy Atlantic ran well then what did you think of May Night's trip?

Go Between's trip wasn't the best, but I was busy watching Icy Atlantic (in fact I though he wasn't going to be in the number at the top of the stretch) but once he found room I though his kick was impressive.

I really have no opinion on May Night's trip. Nothing caught my eye (doesn't mean nothing happened). Reading the chart it insinuated the horse had a rail trip and "flattened out" in the stretch.

blackthroatedwind · #14 01-28-2007, 11:38 AM

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They both had bad trips, however I dont think any horse in the field had a worse trip than Lava Man, he lost a ton of ground going wide and was still under mild urging to win. Hes a better grass horse.

I'll have to beg to disagree. I thought Lava Man had an absolutely perfect trip and dominated a very weak field. While it might be entertaining to see him take on some tough turf horses, or even decent ones, I think he's a better horse on dirt.

cmorioles · #15 01-28-2007, 11:42 AM

The price on Icy Atlantic was insane. One of the keys to winning at this game is to find reasons to go back in a horse's PPs. Isn't being a rabbit a pretty darn good reason? I never thought he could beat Lava Man, but certainly the rest.

2Hot4TV · #16 01-28-2007, 05:53 PM

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I'll have to beg to disagree. I thought Lava Man had an absolutely perfect trip and dominated a very weak field. While it might be entertaining to see him take on some tough turf horses, or even decent ones, I think he's a better horse on dirt.

In my opinion the Lava Man you saw yesterday was what you could call "Dull". He hasn't been showing the normal intrest in his works lately. That's the reason I took a shot at beating him in this race.

outofthebox · #17 01-28-2007, 06:15 PM

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In my opinion the Lava Man you saw yesterday was what you could call "Dull". He hasn't been showing the normal intrest in his works lately. That's the reason I took a shot at beating him in this race.

Not knocking your comment about him appearing "dull". But i would assume that the old guy is getting smart enough to know that the morning works are just that. Nothing to get pumped up about without the race atmosphere of the afternoon.
I remember when Tiznow just didnt give a crap about training anymore. And this was just weeks prior to the BC. He gave McCarron and Robbins heart failure a few times refusing to work.

2Hot4TV · #18 01-28-2007, 06:25 PM

I have seen alot of Lava Man and when he came out to the saddle ring he didn't go up on his toes and he always does. The referance to being dull is just that, he wasn't sharp yesterday and still managed to win.

outofthebox · #19 01-28-2007, 07:02 PM

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I have seen alot of Lava Man and when he came out to the saddle ring he didn't go up on his toes and he always does. The referance to being dull is just that, he wasn't sharp yesterday and still managed to win.

I thought you were referring to his works in the am. Anyway, doesnt hurt trying to beat a heavy favorite who doesnt look as sharp as he normally does. Unfortunately even when he doesnt bring his A game, he can handle the kind of field he faced yesterday..

The Bid · #20 01-28-2007, 07:34 PM

Looked pretty sharp being hung 4 wide around the course and winning by 3 under mild urging. Nothing in the race, and it may not have been his A game, but it was good enough to get the money.

I love when Denman said Lava Man calling on his class, gives me goosebumps and I dont even like Lava Man. Just a good racecall