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|  11/28-12/1 (CD): Derby Future (Pool 1); Sire Future (Only Pool) Kentucky Derby Future Wager – Pool 1 Future Wager 1 (22 individual 3yo males): http://www.brisnet.com/wp-content/up...Future1PPs.pdf 1 American Theorem 50-1 2 Anneau d’Or 20-1 3 Answer In 50-1 4 Authentic 20-1 5 Basin 15-1 6 Dennis’ Moment 15-1 7 Eight Rings 15-1 8 Gouverneur Morris 20-1 9 Great Power 50-1 10 Green Light Go 50-1 11 High Velocity 20-1 12 Honor A. P. 20-1 13 Independence Hall 12-1 14 Maxfield 15-1 15 Scabbard 50-1 16 South Bend 30-1 17 Storm the Court 12-1 18 Structor 20-1 19 Thousand Words 15-1 20 Three Technique 50-1 21 Tiz the Law 20-1 22 Wrecking Crew 50-1 23 All 3-Year-Old Fillies 30-1 24 All Other 3YO Colts & Geldings 6-5 
				__________________ All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984. Last edited by Kasept : 11-30-2019 at 03:54 AM. | 
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|   Kentucky Derby Sire Future Wager 2019-2020 Sire wager (23 sires and their 2yo male progeny): http://www.brisnet.com/wp-content/up...y20SirePPs.pdf 1 American Pharoah 8-1 2 Bernardini 30-1 3 Bodemeister 20-1 4 Candy Ride (ARG) 20-1 5 Constitution 6-1 6 Curlin 12-1 7 Declaration of War 30-1 8 Empire Maker 20-1 9 Hard Spun 30-1 10 Honor Code 30-1 11 Into Mischief 20-1 12 Liam’s Map 30-1 13 Medaglia d’Oro 20-1 14 More Than Ready 30-1 15 Pioneerof the Nile 20-1 16 Quality Road 20-1 17 Shackleford 30-1 18 Speightstown 30-1 19 Street Sense 15-1 20 Tapit 12-1 21 Tiznow 15-1 22 Uncle Mo 20-1 23 Union Rags 20-1 24 All Other Sires 4-1 
				__________________ All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984. Last edited by Kasept : 11-30-2019 at 03:54 AM. | 
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|   Can I book a few million on American Pharoah at 8:1? 
				__________________ Just more nebulous nonsense from BBB | 
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|   I always wanted an apartment on the upper west side. | 
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|   Future Wager 1 (22 individual 3yo males): http://www.brisnet.com/wp-content/up...Future1PPs.pdf Sire wager (23 sires and their 2yo male progeny): http://www.brisnet.com/wp-content/up...y20SirePPs.pdf 
				__________________ All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984. | 
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|   Are there unraced American Pharoah colts that are being hyped up behind the scenes? Not sure there is a single colt that I would currently put in my Derby top 20 sired by him...at least, that I’m aware of. | 
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|   Oh lol then I apologize for completely missing the joke. | 
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|   I don't think so.   I read it like @moses did. 
				__________________ Curlin and Hard Spun finish 1,2 in the 2007 BC Classic, demonstrating how competing in all three Triple Crown races ruins a horse for the rest of the year...see avatar photo from REUTERS/Lucas Jackson | 
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|   hmm...now I'm thinking that there's an "I stand corrected" in my near future. 
				__________________ Curlin and Hard Spun finish 1,2 in the 2007 BC Classic, demonstrating how competing in all three Triple Crown races ruins a horse for the rest of the year...see avatar photo from REUTERS/Lucas Jackson | 
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|   You were both right. Who does he possibly have that can win the Derby? 
				__________________ Just more nebulous nonsense from BBB | 
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|   Ok good. I wasn’t sure if horses like American Phenom and Best Company were being talked about by insiders. Still, with no identifiable contender for the Derby, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him get a lot of money bet on him. | 
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|   Bet unavailable up here in the Great White North   I would have taken #18 Speightstown who is going to be good value. Most won't take him because of the distance, but he does have a couple who are runners. Halo Again is 2 for 2 won at CD then won a stakes at Woodbine going two turns 1 1/8 good connections too... so a mythical $100 for me. 
				__________________ No one has ever bet enough on a winning horse. Richard Sasuly | 
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|   I’ve really only got 3 horses I’m interested in betting on. Green Light Go - If he grows into his frame, he could be a seriously dangerous horse. Early speed, hasn’t taken lasix yet (not sure if any plans to start him on it), and nice pedigree especially on the dam side. Looking for 50-1 or higher. Independence Hall - If Tiz the Law wins the Kentucky Jockey Club then maybe we’ll see a bunch of money on him and it’ll create some value for Independence Hall. Looking for 18-1 or higher. Structor - This is more of a wildcard but if I can get 40-1 or higher on him, I’ll place a wager. I don’t think that happens so I probably won’t make the wager. | 
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|   Green Light Go is interesting. There is also an argument that the rail wasn't a great place to be on Champagne day, so that effort may be much better than it appears. 
				__________________ Just more nebulous nonsense from BBB | 
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|   Seeing Green Light Go at 75-1 at William Hill. Much shorter than that overseas, strangely. Will get some of that when I'm in Vegas next. 
				__________________ please use generalizations and non-truths when arguing your side, thank you | 
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|   What casinos in Vegas are still taking Derby futures? | 
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|   Geeze. He’s dropped to 40-1 in this pool. And Tiz the Law down to 8-1. I’m guessing most people wait until tomorrow to bet so we’ll see how it all plays out. |