Racing Trivia - Page 8

KirisClown · #**141** 12-21-2006, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Bad ride? Well....Chavez rode him.

Singspeil won that year...even though he lost the BC turf to Pilsudski.

Actually Chavez was supposed to ride him that day... but there was some issue with the helicopter and the jocks from Belmont couldnt make it to Atlantic City. Dale Lynch ended up riding Diplomatic Jet..

blackthroatedwind · #**142** 12-21-2006, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by KirisClown

Sandpit...

You really think Awad and Mecke were brutal?

I like to think of him as Shmecke.

They only seemed bad as we were coming off some genuinely good horses. Compared to the dreck we see nowadays they were very good. We live in a world where people actually think English Channel is really good. 20 years ago he would have been lucky to have hit the board in a good turf stake.

Gander · #**143** 12-21-2006, 09:46 AM

I made one of the bigger bets of my life on Sandpit in the Arlington Million the year Marlin wired the field. Pretty sure he ran 2nd. I bet Sandpit to win at around 4/1.

#**144** 12-21-2006, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by KirisClown

Sandpit...

You really think Awad and Mecke were brutal?

Well not brutal, but I guess I never had much luck with any of those horses.
You know how some years you just have a division figured out and do well betting the particular races on that division and some years you just always miss?
That was one of the years I ALWAYS missed. I don't think I cashed a ticket on a grade one grass race that year.

Sightseek · #**145** 12-21-2006, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

No argument from me. They were certainly no worse than English Channel and Cacique.

I miss good horses like Star of Cozzene.

Are you impressed at all with Showing Up? (excuse my stupid questions, I didn't follow racing when the horses mentioned above raced)

Gander · #**146** 12-21-2006, 09:47 AM

I had a lot of luck with a horse called Flag Down.

#**147** 12-21-2006, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by KirisClown

Actually Chavez was supposed to ride him that day... but there was some issue with the helicopter and the jocks from Belmont couldnt make it to Atlantic City. Dale Lynch ended up riding Diplomatic Jet..

Holy **** now I remember the race. The atlantic city guys all got mounts because the copter coming from Belmont didn't make it. I think Sandpit won because his jock was already there having flown in straight from cali earlier and he was riding against guys hwo usually rode 3 claimers.

blackthroatedwind · #**148** 12-21-2006, 09:49 AM

Bob Beinish wishes you all the best during the holidays.

For those of you who don't know who Bob is...he's the man who gave Mikey his nickname. He's also the only socially acceptable person to work for Ragozin.

His punishment? He sits next to me at work.

#**149** 12-21-2006, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek

Are you impressed at all with Showing Up? (excuse my stupid questions, I didn't follow racing when the horses mentioned above raced)

I know I am. I think at age four he has a chance to be truly special. His last two races this year were just awesome. I wasn't sold completely until the last two races, but now I am. Hes the goods.

blackthroatedwind · #**150** 12-21-2006, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek

Are you impressed at all with Showing Up? (excuse my stupid questions, I didn't follow racing when the horses mentioned above raced)

He's pretty good. We'll find out more next year. I hear Barclay is pointing him for Cheltingham. He wants to go MUCH longer......don't ya know.

#**151** 12-21-2006, 09:51 AM

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Bob Beinish wishes you all the best during the holidays.

For those of you who don't know who Bob is...he's the man who gave Mikey his nickname. He's also the only socially acceptable person to work for Ragozin.

His punishment? He sits next to me at work.

Please tell Bobby I wish him a Happy Hanukah. Hes one of the nicest and classiest guys I ever met. Also tell him I've been KR free for 22 months and am attending a victims support group for guys who dealt with him.
Give him by email if you would I would love to speak with him.
horseagent2001@yahoo.com

KirisClown · #**152** 12-21-2006, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I like to think of him as Shmecke.

They only seemed bad as we were coming off some genuinely good horses. Compared to the dreck we see nowadays they were very good. We live in a world where people actually think English Channel is really good. 20 years ago he would have been lucky to have hit the board in a good turf stake.

That's true... they were slobs in comparison to Lure, Paradise Creek, Bien Bien etc..

KirisClown · #**153** 12-21-2006, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

Well not brutal, but I guess I never had much luck with any of those horses.
You know how some years you just have a division figured out and do well betting the particular races on that division and some years you just always miss?
That was one of the years I ALWAYS missed. I don't think I cashed a ticket on a grade one grass race that year.

True enough... I had a nice year in 96 with those turf races.. so maybe im biased.

#**154** 12-21-2006, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by KirisClown

True enough... I had a nice year in 96 with those turf races.. so maybe im biased.

I think thats how people tend to remember divisions and years.
I had my best luck ever with the '94 3yo fillies. I made a huge hit on a Sardula-lakeway exacta. And then my biggest single race score ever when heavenly Prize beat Lakeway up here.
'98 three year olds drive me to insanity as an example, I never guessed right all year long with those. You know like you miss the wedding on a horse and then you give up and play him and you get to attend the funeral. 98 3Yo's and 96 grass horses sent me to lots of funerals.

Sightseek · #**155** 12-21-2006, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

He's pretty good. We'll find out more next year. I hear Barclay is pointing him for Cheltingham. He wants to go MUCH longer......don't ya know.

Can Revolution and every other name he was known as confirm this?

Gander · #**156** 12-21-2006, 10:00 AM

Paradise Creek had an acceleration that would leave Eng Channel and Cacique 5 lengths behind in the blink of an eye. Those were the days.

KirisClown · #**157** 12-21-2006, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Gander

Paradise Creek had an acceleration that would leave Eng Channel and Cacique 5 lengths behind in the blink of an eye. Those were the days.

Totally agree.... his 94 Manhattan was visually spectacular... 10F in 1:57.79 under a hold. It's too bad he couldnt relax in the BC...

Gander · #**158** 12-21-2006, 10:04 AM

And horses like Skip Away, Cigar and Holy Bull had heart and actually raced!

The 90's sure sucked for music but were great for horse racing.

#**159** 12-21-2006, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Gander

Paradise Creek had an acceleration that would leave Eng Channel and Cacique 5 lengths behind in the blink of an eye. Those were the days.

5 lengths? Are you kidding me? Try 15 lengths geared down. Those two horses couldnt run down the Tin man off that slow pace. How would they fare chasing a horse like paradise who would be goinng 15 lengths quicker under a snug hold?

blackthroatedwind · #**160** 12-21-2006, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek

Can Revolution and every other name he was known as confirm this?

Tagg is sort of silly in that every horse he has he says " he/she wants to go long "...other than that I think he's as good a trainer as there is. Honestly, I don't care what anyone says, the job he did with Funny Cide was masterful. His personality prevented him from being hailed as a training genius.

I heard, from a reliable source unlike the board liars that formerly posted here, that Showing Up won't return to the dirt because of soundness issues. Makes sense especially in light of what happened at Hollywood.