Q.l.m.

SCUDSBROTHER · #1 12-17-2006, 06:43 PM

The hunger is beautiful.I love her.2ND IN A GRADE 1.No false girl there.

2Hot4TV · #2 12-17-2006, 06:45 PM

David Flores wins 5? It is Christmas.

blackthroatedwind · #3 12-17-2006, 06:45 PM

I bet her...she was borderline awful. That was a horrendous group and the third finisher, a neck behind Quick Little Miss, broke lengths behind the field.

Down is the only horse that ran a step in that race.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #4 12-17-2006, 06:48 PM

how about flores,,,nice job...and good call scuds btw cal...

Swale84 · #5 12-17-2006, 06:48 PM

Anybody catch that joke about Tizthen wearing a hood in the Hollywood Stalret, he said he hoped there wasn't confusion, and the owner told the trainer "we're running in the Hood today." That was pretty edgy.

SCUDSBROTHER · #6 12-17-2006, 06:51 PM

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how about flores,,,nice job...and good call scuds btw cal...

Flores was overdue.He is a very good rider,but goes into big funks.Glad he came out of this last funk,and made some Christmas money.

SCUDSBROTHER · #7 12-17-2006, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I bet her...she was borderline awful. That was a horrendous group and the third finisher, a neck behind Quick Little Miss, broke lengths behind the field.

Down is the only horse that ran a step in that race.

"Borderline Awful" is a compliment(from you.) Very tough to close ground at this track the last couple days.I like the 2nd and 3rd horse,but congrats to the Calbred connections.If you think the Frankel is a better filly,then I don't think it is a poor effort to finish in front of her(even if the Frankel had trouble.)This is Q.L.M'S best race.She is getting better each race now.Gunna be Mel's last good horse.

blackthroatedwind · #8 12-17-2006, 07:02 PM

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"Borderline Awful" is a compliment(from you.) Very tough to close ground at this track the last couple days.I like the 2nd and 3rd horse,but congrats to the Calbred connections.If you think the Frankel is a better filly,then I don't think it is a poor effort to finish in front of her(even if the Frankel had trouble.)This is Q.L.M'S best race.She is getting better each race now.Gunna be Mel's last good horse.

She didn't take the turn well, and in the context of the race she ran OK, but the problem is I think the whole field ( save perhaps Down ) stinks. That being my overall feeling it's hard to get excited about anyone.

The real question is why are there no genuinely good fillies anymore. With the loss of Pine Island, the dirt fillies and mares looks like a horrendous division for 2007 and this past BC Juvenile fillies was a disgraceful race.

Swale84 · #9 12-17-2006, 07:06 PM

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She didn't take the turn well, and in the context and this past BC Juvenile fillies was a disgraceful race.

Why do you say that?

SCUDSBROTHER · #10 12-17-2006, 08:39 PM

I guarantee you that Frankel thought sure he had 2nd place in this race.QL.M. would not let that filly by for 2nd.These 2 fillies ran so much farther than the winner had to.

blackthroatedwind · #11 12-17-2006, 08:45 PM

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I guarantee you that Frankel thought sure he had 2nd place in this race.QL.M. would not let that filly by for 2nd.These 2 fillies ran so much farther than the winner had to.

Well, considering she spotted the field multiple lengths and was making just her second career start, the first being a 6F race in late October, it is hardly surprising Down hung a bit late in the game. It's hard to believe she won't prove the best of these down the road.

And, despite having his name being soiled on this board by a certain delusion poster's pretend relationship with him, Frankel is a pretty damn good trainer.

#12 12-17-2006, 08:50 PM

Wanted to point out that today was Mike Mitchell's first day running out of the detention barn after a supposed Co2 overage(milkshaking) and all he does is go out and win the Starlet.
I'm really not trying to be contrarian here, truly, but does anyone understand the science behind this testing for milkshaking and how accurate it is?

SCUDSBROTHER · #13 12-17-2006, 08:52 PM

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Well, considering she spotted the field multiple lengths and was making just her second career start, the first being a 6F race in late October, it is hardly surprising Down hung a bit late in the game. It's hard to believe she won't prove the best of these down the road.

And, despite having his name being soiled on this board by a certain delusion poster's pretend relationship with him, Frankel is a pretty damn good trainer.

I don't think she hung badly.Both lost a ton of ground in the race,and were tired from it,but Q.L.M. started running hard when that filly tried to go by her.I think you'll see that both these fillies are nice.THEY BOTH LOST HUGE GROUND IN THIS RACE.I don't know what more you can ask from 2 year old fillies than to keep running in the stretch after that.

philcski · #14 12-17-2006, 08:58 PM

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Wanted to point out that today was Mike Mitchell's first day running out of the detention barn after a supposed Co2 overage(milkshaking) and all he does is go out and win the Starlet.
I'm really not trying to be contrarian here, truly, but does anyone understand the science behind this testing for milkshaking and how accurate it is?

hmm... fair point. easy to be skeptical when that happens.

blackthroatedwind · #15 12-17-2006, 09:12 PM

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I don't think she hung badly.Both lost a ton of ground in the race,and were tired from it,but Q.L.M. started running hard when that filly tried to go by her.I think you'll see that both these fillies are nice.THEY BOTH LOST HUGE GROUND IN THIS RACE.I don't know what more you can ask from 2 year old fillies than to keep running in the stretch after that.

She didn't hang " badly "...but she hung.

Whether right or wrong, I'm not a big ground loss guy, especially on the final turn.

SCUDSBROTHER · #16 12-17-2006, 09:30 PM

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She didn't hang " badly "...but she hung.

Whether right or wrong, I'm not a big ground loss guy, especially on the final turn.

You're simply defective.You want 2 year old fillies to run fast,but I can GUARANTEE you they simply can't run all that fast if they have trips like the 2nd and 3rd place horses did.

#17 12-17-2006, 09:36 PM

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hmm... fair point. easy to be skeptical when that happens.

Phil, last year when he went into the monitoring barn I tossed out his horses and got my ass burned good, the guy kept winning.
He goes into the barn today, and wins a race like he won.
In other words, where are all the guys screaming JUICE JUICE!!! now?

SentToStud · #18 12-17-2006, 09:40 PM

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... where are all the guys screaming JUICE JUICE!!! now?

Work's over. They're at the Juice Bar.

blackthroatedwind · #19 12-17-2006, 09:59 PM

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You're simply defective.You want 2 year old fillies to run fast,but I can GUARANTEE you they simply can't run all that fast if they have trips like the 2nd and 3rd place horses did.

I don't " want " anything. These horses are slow. Period. They are slow relative to even moderately talented horses from their division over the past measurable years. Doesn't particularly matter to me, but I know even relatively good horses when I see them, and this group, and division, is not in that category.

The third horse had a lousy trip in that she spotted the field a few lengths. The second horse lost some ground, and probably more importantly seemed to blow the final turn into the strecth and thus lost some momentum, but I don't know that I consider her to have gotten a lousy trip. She's a deep closer....what kind of trip did she figure to get.

There were two 1 1/16 mile races at Hollywood today. The first was a NW1X for 2YO colts where they went slow early and faster late ( 24.8 48.8 1:12.9 1:37.37 1:43.58 ) while the Starlet went much faster early and slowed down quite a bit late ( 22.43 45.47 1:10.3 1:35.89 1:42.61 ). That would certainly not bolster the case that Quick Little Miss had a difficult trip. Sounds to me like the race collapsed. But, the final time was decent...at least relative to the earlier race.

SCUDSBROTHER · #20 12-17-2006, 10:11 PM

For this argument about C02 testing to make any sense,he would have to have been caught with high co2 on this particular stakes horse,but don't let me get in the way of your bullsht.Cole Norman would agree with you wholeheartedly.BTW,don't forget Kitchingham was caught with high C02,and admitted he was cheating.So, I wouldn't be so quick to say these guys aren't cheating.Think about the logic here:

This guy Mitchell had a horse test high for C02(again.) It wasn't with this stakes horse.Somehow (in Oracle's head) this stakes win(while being in detention) means he is less likely to be guilty of causing a high C02 level in the horse he was accused of doing it to. If he was ever accused of causing a high co2 in this particular horse that won today,then this thinking might make a thread of sense.