Bye bye Curlin ?

[Cannon Shell]

Part-owner Jess Jackson admits he's conflicted about whether or not to race Curlin next year at age 4, saying his role as a breeder was tugging at him just as much as his role as a racing fan.

Curlin added yesterday's $5 million Breeders' Cup Classic to his victories in the Preakness Stakes, the Grade 1 Jockey Club Gold Cub and the Arkansas Derby, and will undoubtedly earn Horse of the Year honors when the votes are tabulated shortly.

"There's an inner quarrel with me," said Jackson, who heads up Stonestreet Stables. "Inside, cerebrally, I'm saying, 'Here is a horse that can help change the direction of breeding in America, maybe the world (because of his speed, stamina and size).' So on one part, I'm saying I'd love to have the American breed grade upward with durability, distance and speed that Curlin represents.

"On the other hand, I'm a racing fan. I've always been a handicapper. I love to see the tried and true come back and back and back. I'd love to see him race again. We'll see what happens. It is a financial game. But there's a lot of heart in it by (Curlin's team)."

The decision-making process should be interesting. Padua Stables (George Bolton) also owns a piece of Curlin, as does Midnight Cry Stable. The latter is headed by lawyers William Gallion and Shirley Cunningham Jr.; they are in the Boone County (Ky.) jail stemming from charges of defrauding clients of $62 million





He can change the direction of American breeding? How could we possible think of racing him when he can change the whole breed!!!

If it wasn't so sad it would be funny...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Part-owner Jess Jackson admits he's conflicted about whether or not to race Curlin next year at age 4, saying his role as a breeder was tugging at him just as much as his role as a racing fan.

Curlin added yesterday's $5 million Breeders' Cup Classic to his victories in the Preakness Stakes, the Grade 1 Jockey Club Gold Cub and the Arkansas Derby, and will undoubtedly earn Horse of the Year honors when the votes are tabulated shortly.

"There's an inner quarrel with me," said Jackson, who heads up Stonestreet Stables. "Inside, cerebrally, I'm saying, 'Here is a horse that can help change the direction of breeding in America, maybe the world (because of his speed, stamina and size).' So on one part, I'm saying I'd love to have the American breed grade upward with durability, distance and speed that Curlin represents.

"On the other hand, I'm a racing fan. I've always been a handicapper. I love to see the tried and true come back and back and back. I'd love to see him race again. We'll see what happens. It is a financial game. But there's a lot of heart in it by (Curlin's team)."

The decision-making process should be interesting. Padua Stables (George Bolton) also owns a piece of Curlin, as does Midnight Cry Stable. The latter is headed by lawyers William Gallion and Shirley Cunningham Jr.; they are in the Boone County (Ky.) jail stemming from charges of defrauding clients of $62 million





He can change the direction of American breeding? How could we possible think of racing him when he can change the whole breed!!!

If it wasn't so sad it would be funny...

not just american, maybe the WORLD!! the whole world! holy crap, whatta horse.

i'm going to bed.

[cloud_break]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Part-owner Jess Jackson admits he's conflicted about whether or not to race Curlin next year at age 4, saying his role as a breeder was tugging at him just as much as his role as a racing fan.

Curlin added yesterday's $5 million Breeders' Cup Classic to his victories in the Preakness Stakes, the Grade 1 Jockey Club Gold Cub and the Arkansas Derby, and will undoubtedly earn Horse of the Year honors when the votes are tabulated shortly.

"There's an inner quarrel with me," said Jackson, who heads up Stonestreet Stables. "Inside, cerebrally, I'm saying, 'Here is a horse that can help change the direction of breeding in America, maybe the world (because of his speed, stamina and size).' So on one part, I'm saying I'd love to have the American breed grade upward with durability, distance and speed that Curlin represents.

"On the other hand, I'm a racing fan. I've always been a handicapper. I love to see the tried and true come back and back and back. I'd love to see him race again. We'll see what happens. It is a financial game. But there's a lot of heart in it by (Curlin's team)."

The decision-making process should be interesting. Padua Stables (George Bolton) also owns a piece of Curlin, as does Midnight Cry Stable. The latter is headed by lawyers William Gallion and Shirley Cunningham Jr.; they are in the Boone County (Ky.) jail stemming from charges of defrauding clients of $62 million





He can change the direction of American breeding? How could we possible think of racing him when he can change the whole breed!!!

If it wasn't so sad it would be funny...

I know exactly what Jess is thinking. Why, I read the whole stud book the other night, and couldn't find a single Mr. Prospector/Northern Dancer cross in the whole damn thing. I'm sure Curlin will revolutionize everything.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by merasmag

and i thought 150 covers was impressive! you're a trainer...i may've had this asked and answered before but why can't a guy do both? ...i mean how much time would a horse need to resume training and then racing after taking a month off for a little r and r in the shed?

I train and breed...it can be done!!!!

[letswastemoney]

He can still "change" the world in 2 years....it doesn't have to be now

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Hey its not about the money.....ITS FOR THE GOOD OF THE BREED WORLDWIDE!!!!!!

Maybe they can get a Nobel prize?

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by merasmag

and i thought 150 covers was impressive! you're a trainer...i may've had this asked and answered before but why can't a guy do both? ...i mean how much time would a horse need to resume training and then racing after taking a month off for a little r and r in the shed?

wouldn't work....for one, they have to be trained/taught how to breed, despite what it seems they dont really just know what they are doing....and from then out it's work, just like any other job....and of course most mares don't get in foal on one cover, so he would have to keep coming out of training to cover mares until his book was satisfied. and those are just the obvious reasons.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Part-owner Jess Jackson admits he's conflicted about whether or not to race Curlin next year at age 4, saying his role as a breeder was tugging at him just as much as his role as a racing fan.

Curlin added yesterday's $5 million Breeders' Cup Classic to his victories in the Preakness Stakes, the Grade 1 Jockey Club Gold Cub and the Arkansas Derby, and will undoubtedly earn Horse of the Year honors when the votes are tabulated shortly.

"There's an inner quarrel with me," said Jackson, who heads up Stonestreet Stables. "Inside, cerebrally, I'm saying, 'Here is a horse that can help change the direction of breeding in America, maybe the world (because of his speed, stamina and size).' So on one part, I'm saying I'd love to have the American breed grade upward with durability, distance and speed that Curlin represents.

"On the other hand, I'm a racing fan. I've always been a handicapper. I love to see the tried and true come back and back and back. I'd love to see him race again. We'll see what happens. It is a financial game. But there's a lot of heart in it by (Curlin's team)."

The decision-making process should be interesting. Padua Stables (George Bolton) also owns a piece of Curlin, as does Midnight Cry Stable. The latter is headed by lawyers William Gallion and Shirley Cunningham Jr.; they are in the Boone County (Ky.) jail stemming from charges of defrauding clients of $62 million





He can change the direction of American breeding? How could we possible think of racing him when he can change the whole breed!!!
If it wasn't so sad it would be funny...

Well... considering I invented the Internet, the least Jess Jackson could do is change the 1,000 year old Thoroughbred breed.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Hey its not about the money.....ITS FOR THE GOOD OF THE BREED WORLDWIDE!!!!!!

Maybe they can get a Nobel prize?

If Al Gore can...anyone can...

[sumitas]

not just anyone...this is the jess jackson.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Cardus

Was it a few bottles of his Cabernet or his Chardonnay that led him to utter these thoughts?

Wine in a box

[Payson Dave]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I train and breed...it can be done!!!!

I hope that Paula will back you up on that!!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I train and breed...it can be done!!!!

how fast do you run a mile??

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Danzig

how fast do you run a mile??

I'm better in the shed than on the track...

You know I really have done enough...

[Payson Dave]

Originally Posted by Payson Dave

I hope that Paula will back you up on that!!

again

[Slewbopper]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Wine in a box

You mean wine in a bag in a box

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Slewbopper

You mean wine in a bag in a box

yeah that it

[disappearingdan_akaplaya]

change the breed? howbout fixing breeding first which will take bout 50 years to do