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Old 02-13-2007, 11:15 AM
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Default Summer Doldrums headed for the Gotham S. (G3) on March 10.

After he stunck up his stakes debut in the Remsen S. (G2), he was very ready to roll last week, an easy 8 plus lenghts, and still rolling after the line. Could see a nice stalking trip here, and runs the long strip to the wire with his late kick style.
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Old 02-13-2007, 12:30 PM
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Call me stupid, but I tend to use the dosage index approach for the derby, and this colt doesn't really fit the necessary profile. Giacomo didn't either, though (probably why I tossed him. ) Thoughts?

6-2-6-0-0 (14) DI = 3.67 CD = 1.00
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Old 02-13-2007, 12:45 PM
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Call me stupid, but I tend to use the dosage index approach for the derby, and this colt doesn't really fit the necessary profile. Giacomo didn't either, though (probably why I tossed him. ) Thoughts?

6-2-6-0-0 (14) DI = 3.67 CD = 1.00
Dosage is becoming obsolete as horses get further from the chefs-de-races and they continue to be reluctant to add new ones. All it has become is a measure of how few generations you are removed from the top stallions of old. That isn't even factoring in that it completely ignores any females in your pedigree.
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Old 02-13-2007, 12:59 PM
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Very impressive Saturday and being a son of Street Cry should get a distance of ground. However beating up on that field in Whirlaway compared to what he will probably face down the line makes me cautious.

Anyone have any opinion on whether he took advantage of any biases Sat? i think I recall him inside for the race and know Sun at Aqueduct there was huge inside bias
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Old 02-13-2007, 01:04 PM
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Very impressive Saturday and being a son of Street Cry should get a distance of ground. However beating up on that field in Whirlaway compared to what he will probably face down the line makes me cautious.

Anyone have any opinion on whether he took advantage of any biases Sat? i think I recall him inside for the race and know Sun at Aqueduct there was huge inside bias
Is distance capability in the pedigree normally determined largely by the female family, though?
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Old 02-13-2007, 03:39 PM
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Is distance capability in the pedigree normally determined largely by the female family, though?
Here is a link to some info on Female Pedigree.
http://www.dimarpublishing.citymaker...ge/1367143.htm
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Old 02-13-2007, 01:05 PM
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Summer Doldrums will be 2/5 in the Gotham (theres little else in there, most likely a 4 horse field). If you didnt bet him last week you can forget about a price on this Violette charge until the KY Derby.
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Old 02-13-2007, 01:07 PM
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Summer Doldrums is bred to thrive over a distance of ground.

His sire Street Cry won the 1 1/4 mile Dubai World Cup in supreme fashion over tough stablemate Sakhee.

His dam sire, Unacounted For, was beaten just one length by Cigar, at level weights, in the 1995 Jockey Club Gold Cup at 1 1/4 miles. Cigar was a perfect 10-for-10 that season, and no one got closer to him all year than Unaccounted For did that day.

The female family is laced with sprinter/miler types---and is a nice injection of speed into the pedigree.

I don't pay any attention to dosage at all. This horse really has stepped his game up with the added distance....however, I have a hard time believing he's as good as that 106 Beyer suggests.

Each of the top four finishers in the Whirlaway Stakes had double digit new career tops---and with only one other route race on the AQU card, and a widely talked about rail bias---there are a lot of fluky things surrounding the race from a figure making standpoint.
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Old 02-13-2007, 01:30 PM
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Actually I didn't think he would try the lead, but the rail was the place to be Saturday. Bias, yes for sure. I consider his best ability to stalk, then pounce down the lane. Has a nice strong late kick, and the Big A has the longest streach, so they do have a way to compliment each other.
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