Turfway Park This weekend

[smartyalex]

with all the recent "Turfway" debate, I found this of interest....
http://drf.com/news/article/82379.html

[The Bid]

Whoever thinks this stuff is as advertised is a buffoon.

Thanks for posting that Smarty.

[King Glorious]

So is the DRF, in addition to noting which horses receive bute or lasix.......going to start listing which horses receive Pam? Hillarious stuff.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

So is the DRF, in addition to noting which horses receive bute or lasix.......going to start listing which horses receive Pam? Hillarious stuff.

Will P1 become the angle for poly?

[todko]

The sad part is that according to the article they are "tilling" the track to bring up some of the old poly to the surface. The old poly is the same stuff they tried to cover up because it was bad in the first place.

The circus continues . . . what are they going to try next . . . chopping up old mattresses and adding that to the mix? Or maybe used sponges from car washes? Perhaps they could grind up some GI Joes and Barbi Dolls and throw that in too?

It's time these clowns got rid of Martin Collins LLC, put up some money, and hired a corporation with an R&D background to develop an effective artificial track. There are plenty of companys that would take the contract -- Goodyear, DuPont, you name it. Hire a real company with real scientists and engineers -- if poly had been developed correctly in the first place it wouldn't be having these problems today.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by todko

The sad part is that according to the article they are "tilling" the track to bring up some of the old poly to the surface. The old poly is the same stuff they tried to cover up because it was bad in the first place.

The circus continues . . . what are they going to try next . . . chopping up old mattresses and adding that to the mix? Or maybe used sponges from car washes? Perhaps they could grind up some GI Joes and Barbi Dolls and throw that in too?

It's time these clowns got rid of Martin Collins LLC, put up some money, and hired a corporation with an R&D background to develop an effective artificial track. There are plenty of companys that would take the contract -- Goodyear, DuPont, you name it. Hire a real company with real scientists and engineers -- if poly had been developed correctly in the first place it wouldn't be having these problems today.

I agree with that. I still think that a new well cushioned dirt track would have been just as safe.

[Swap Fliparoo]

Originally Posted by todko

The circus continues . . . what are they going to try next . . . chopping up old mattresses and adding that to the mix? Or maybe used sponges from car washes? Perhaps they could grind up some GI Joes and Barbi Dolls and throw that in too?

[todko]

The tough part about this article is seeing the excuses that are still being offered for this defective surface. Going on two years and they are continually having massive problems with what was clearly touted as a "miracle surface".

Bid told us of a horse that had its eye knocked out by the kickback. This article clearly references injuries to horses from the kickback -- blood from the nostrils and cuts (can't all be EIPH now can it?). It's only a matter of time before a jockey gets his or her teeth knocked out by this garbage.

Here's the scoop:

http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=37529

[The Bid]

Pretty funny article really.

Ellison is still dancing around the issue.

Why didnt they change winter racing hours before polytrack? They werent worried about the welfare of the horsemen or horses then. All the sudden they want to make sure the climate suits the horsemen, please.

My favorite part of the article is when they say the track seems to react to colder temperatures. Gee, thats shocking, I thought it was all weather. The horses on stilts was pretty interesting as well. I wish they would have spoke a little about a horse losing an eyeball due to kickback. Maybe that will be in the next episode of as the polytrack turns.

[JJP]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Pretty funny article really.

Ellison is still dancing around the issue.

Why didnt they change winter racing hours before polytrack? They werent worried about the welfare of the horsemen or horses then. All the sudden they want to make sure the climate suits the horsemen, please.

My favorite part of the article is when they say the track seems to react to colder temperatures. Gee, thats shocking, I thought it was all weather. The horses on stilts was pretty interesting as well. I wish they would have spoke a little about a horse losing an eyeball due to kickback. Maybe that will be in the next episode of as the polytrack turns.

The term "all-weather" is becoming an oxymoron for Polytrack. Apparently its the "when the temperature is between 32 and 85 all purpose track". The folks at TP and Kee should've done their research; everyone knows the winters in the U.K. aren't as severe as here, and the summers aren't as hot, either.

[todko]

Originally Posted by JJP

The term "all-weather" is becoming an oxymoron for Polytrack. Apparently its the "when the temperature is between 32 and 85 all purpose track". The folks at TP and Kee should've done their research; everyone knows the winters in the U.K. aren't as severe as here, and the summers aren't as hot, either.

That's just it JJP -- they did zero research on it. And now Arlington and Del-Mar are moving forward -- and there is zero research on how poly acts in extreme heat. I know there were problems at TP during the summer training season.

This whole charade came about because the powers that be don't care about the handicappers, the bettors, and the fans. They could care less -- if they find a track surface that they think will be cheaper to operate they go forward with it and they say, "to hell with the fans -- the fans are gambling addicts anyway".

Poly was sold to tracks as saving $500,000 a year in maintenance. To the public they preached that it was "safer for horses". They didn't give a rat's ass about safety -- it was all about the bottom line and who cares if it inconveniences the handicappers and knocks horses eyes out.

The big event coming up is a lawsuit by a jockey or jockeys over lung damage from breathing pollutants. That is coming eventually and that may indeed be the end of horse racing as we know it in America.

[Scav]

Since I am going to Indy for the Butler/SIU game on Saturday, it just dawned on me how close Florence, KY is to Indianapolis (125 miles, 75 minutes). It is possible I might be making an appearance. More to come later.

[The Bid]

You better call ahead to see if they are going to run or cancel

[disappearingdan_akaplaya]

was down there this past weekend scavs as we ran a filly with your boy mena on that ran 3rd sunday. the recieving barn was in horrible shape as the washracks were frozen and it was flooded. theres a theatre and alotta places to eat around the track like fuddruckers and some hotels right there but if youre lookin for a place to stay i highly reccomend the drawbridge which is a few miles from the track

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya

was down there this past weekend scavs as we ran a filly with your boy mena on that ran 3rd sunday. the recieving barn was in horrible shape as the washracks were frozen and it was flooded. theres a theatre and alotta places to eat around the track like fuddruckers and some hotels right there but if youre lookin for a place to stay i highly reccomend the drawbridge which is a few miles from the track

oh my God, quote of the day man.

[Swap Fliparoo]

Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya

was down there this past weekend scavs as we ran a filly with your boy mena on that ran 3rd sunday. the recieving barn was in horrible shape as the washracks were frozen and it was flooded. theres a theatre and alotta places to eat around the track like fuddruckers and some hotels right there but if youre lookin for a place to stay i highly reccomend the drawbridge which is a few miles from the track

There are about 3 hotels right on Turfway road even, walking distance to the track.

Fudrucker's is ok, but i recommend Rafferty's

[disappearingdan_akaplaya]

Originally Posted by Swap Fliparoo

There are about 3 hotels right on Turfway road even, walking distance to the track.

Fudrucker's is ok, but i recommend Rafferty's

i ate@rafferty's when i was down there a few weeks back, good food and very large portions guaranteed you will walk out full. we used to have fuddruckers here in illinois years back brian as you know, not sure why they closed em all down=(

[disappearingdan_akaplaya]

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

Dude, that place is dirty! The tables and chairs are all sticky!

lol you make it sound like a strip club

[Swap Fliparoo]

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

Dude, that place is dirty! The tables and chairs are all sticky!

Really? Been good to me (so far)!