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Old 12-19-2006, 01:25 PM
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http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...-probe-ongoing

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Old 12-19-2006, 01:33 PM
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if this is for race fixing although i have no proof i wouldnt be surprised at all to see 1 of the jocks named in the article. ive saw a few"suspicious" rides from him@cby over the years
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Old 12-19-2006, 01:50 PM
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I can't wait to see Kev's reply to this thread...

The "race fixing" thought is also the first one that went through my mind after reading the article, and one of the listed jocks is who I had in mind when I thought that... got a weak-a$$ ride from him the other day where he "coasted" in on the stretch and finished out of the money on a horse that sure looked like he could still run... why would a jock not smack his horse a few times with his whip when all he has to do is get a nose up to finish ITM? Pissed me off when I saw it - but I want to believe that cheaters aren't that obvious - poor naive me
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Old 12-19-2006, 02:00 PM
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I'd be surprised if it's for race fixing for the simple fact Jose "Chokehold" Ferrer isn't among those banned.
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Old 12-19-2006, 02:05 PM
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I'd be surprised if it's for race fixing for the simple fact Jose "Chokehold" Ferrer isn't among those banned.
Stud you and I talked about Tampa last year and I told you why I don't play the place. I know about the large fields, I know about the grass course, I know they pay great. But anytime I've ever tried to make a run at following and understanding the place, I've never felt like I could get a handle on the place.
At any track where purses are miniscule, I think harness racing. By that mean, if the purse on a race is 6 grand, the winning jockey and trainer get 360 bucks for winning the thing, and for the jockey 90 bucks of that goes to his agent. Why should they bust their asses to win all the time when you can geta few races home each day and EVERYONE makes more than that?
I like the small tracks where the purse money is fueled up by slots, you put some money out there and believe me guys try harder. Its just human nature.
I just can't play the joint.
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Old 12-19-2006, 02:13 PM
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Stud you and I talked about Tampa last year and I told you why I don't play the place. I know about the large fields, I know about the grass course, I know they pay great. But anytime I've ever tried to make a run at following and understanding the place, I've never felt like I could get a handle on the place.
At any track where purses are miniscule, I think harness racing. By that mean, if the purse on a race is 6 grand, the winning jockey and trainer get 360 bucks for winning the thing, and for the jockey 90 bucks of that goes to his agent. Why should they bust their asses to win all the time when you can geta few races home each day and EVERYONE makes more than that?
I like the small tracks where the purse money is fueled up by slots, you put some money out there and believe me guys try harder. Its just human nature.
I just can't play the joint.
Strange things happened there more frequently than any other track I ever stabled at.
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Old 12-19-2006, 03:11 PM
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Stud you and I talked about Tampa last year and I told you why I don't play the place. I know about the large fields, I know about the grass course, I know they pay great. But anytime I've ever tried to make a run at following and understanding the place, I've never felt like I could get a handle on the place.
At any track where purses are miniscule, I think harness racing. By that mean, if the purse on a race is 6 grand, the winning jockey and trainer get 360 bucks for winning the thing, and for the jockey 90 bucks of that goes to his agent. Why should they bust their asses to win all the time when you can geta few races home each day and EVERYONE makes more than that?
I like the small tracks where the purse money is fueled up by slots, you put some money out there and believe me guys try harder. Its just human nature.
I just can't play the joint.
I like the place. Won't play til next month but I'm looking over last year's stuff and watching this year's races. As for the goofy sh it that goes on, I just figure it's all a wash and even figure it benefits me as I will NEVER bet a horse under 6-1 to win there. Maybe I'm wrong for thinking that, but it makes me feel better thinking so.

You certainly can't go to the otb and get a simulcast book or download a drf pp for Tampa at home and have any chance of winning by glancing and firing away. But the pools run $2Mil during the week and $3 Mil+ on the weekends and I truly believe the simulcast money on tracks like Tampa is generally "deader" than on NYRA or SoCal.

If you stick to the multi race exotics, and play single race tris fairly deep when you have a bad chalk, one can do real well playing Tampa.
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Old 12-19-2006, 02:26 PM
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I'd be surprised if it's for race fixing for the simple fact Jose "Chokehold" Ferrer isn't among those banned.
Speaking of Ferrer, the IRB dropped their suspension of him.
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Old 12-19-2006, 02:36 PM
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The whole Ferrer thing is total BS. Stewards look so hilarious for how they handled it

As far as Tampa. What is the announcer going to do now, he gets SO EXCITED to call out Judice's name. Houghton is gone to, pretty crazy. They might be suspending Valdes for always finishing last.

Folks, this is the type of place that GPK likes, proceed with caution
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