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Old 11-10-2006, 01:28 PM
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For the second time, a proscecutor in Germany is going after Rumsfeld and other American officials. The prosecutor is seeking a criminal investigation and possible prosecution of Rumsfeld and others on behalf of 11 Iraqis who were prisoners at Abu Ghraib.

You can go to drudgreport.com for the links.
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Old 11-10-2006, 01:50 PM
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For the second time, a proscecutor in Germany is going after Rumsfeld and other American officials. The prosecutor is seeking a criminal investigation and possible prosecution of Rumsfeld and others on behalf of 11 Iraqis who were prisoners at Abu Ghraib.

You can go to drudgreport.com for the links.
What's so hilarious about this is that they would never go after real war criminals. You don't see them going after the people that cut people's heads off. You don't see them going after Hamas for intentionally targeting civilians.

When you really think about it, it's amazing that this prosecutor would have the nerve to do this. Does he think that we don't know his motives? Who does he think he's kidding?

Even though I know that nothing will come of this, it still angers me. With all that we've done for Europe, they still treat us like crap.

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Old 11-10-2006, 02:16 PM
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Even though I know that nothing will come of this, it still angers me. With all that we've done for Europe, they still treat us like crap.
ha, Germany may not be the best example of "all we've done" for Europe!

If it were France..........
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Old 11-10-2006, 02:42 PM
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ha, Germany may not be the best example of "all we've done" for Europe!

If it were France..........
East Germany is free because of us.
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Old 11-10-2006, 03:07 PM
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East Germany is free because of us.
East Germany is free because the Soviets tried to keep up with the US expenditures during the Cold War, and bankrupted themselves. The only thing the US did was outspend them, and almost bankrupt itself as well.

As far as Germany putting Rumsfeld on trial, can you remember which country held war trials at Nuremburg to hold their war criminals accountable for their actions?
Read the second and third paragraphs......
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/1110-35.htm
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Old 11-11-2006, 07:44 AM
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This comparing the Nazi Regime and bush is getting real old. The two are very much diffrent. Hitler killed over 12 million people not in a war or fighting, but by taking them from their homes and either burning them, putting them in gas chambers, or simply starving them until they died. People say bush started a pre-emptive war, its fine if you believe that but that has nothing to do with Hitlers regime.

My second thought on the article is it points to the fact that democrats never did anything wrong. Please clinton LIED to america under oath. Do we all remember "it depends on what your definition of is, is" Most politicians will say anything to get into office or out of trouble.
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Old 11-11-2006, 03:01 PM
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East Germany is free because the Soviets tried to keep up with the US expenditures during the Cold War, and bankrupted themselves. The only thing the US did was outspend them, and almost bankrupt itself as well.

As far as Germany putting Rumsfeld on trial, can you remember which country held war trials at Nuremburg to hold their war criminals accountable for their actions?
Read the second and third paragraphs......
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/1110-35.htm
When did the US almost bankrupt itself? That is news to me.

Just admit you are a communist.
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Old 11-11-2006, 08:49 AM
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What's so hilarious about this is that they would never go after real war criminals. You don't see them going after the people that cut people's heads off. You don't see them going after Hamas for intentionally targeting civilians.

When you really think about it, it's amazing that this prosecutor would have the nerve to do this. Does he think that we don't know his motives? Who does he think he's kidding?

Even though I know that nothing will come of this, it still angers me. With all that we've done for Europe, they still treat us like crap.
Did you read the article closely? The German prosecutor has yet to take any action yet because the plaintiffs haven't yet filed.

The culprit here doesn't seem to me to be the Germans but rather German law which allows for "universal jurisdiction" for war crimes and related offenses that take place anywhere in the world.

A similar situation came up with Rumsfeld in Germany in 2004. Prosecutors delined to persue action. A civil rights attorney named Michael Ratner, who is helping the plaintiffs with their filing is one of the culprits, in my view.

But the worst culprit here is former U.S. Army General Janis Kaspirski, who used to run the U.S. prisons in Iraq who has issued a written statement to acompany the plaintiffs' filings and apparently will be a witness for the plaintiffs.. She will be in Germany next week to "address her accusations" in the case. I'd bet dollars to dimes her prospective publisher and public relations rep will be staying in the same freaking hotel.

I think it is absolutely abhorrant when senior U.S. military officials "retire" and then move on to seek personal attention and wealth by writing books or showing up on television talk shows which can only be successful ventures if they betray their superiors, their military and their nation.

The fact it is happening in Germany is just because it's the quickest way for Kaspirski to get her face on the t.v. talk shows before the new Congress conducts whatever hearings it's sure to conduct where she'd get lost in the shuffle.

For or against the war; for or against Bush; for or against whatever, this sort of betrayal by our retired military leaders is bullsh1t.
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