Coolmore fees for new stallions

[brockguy]

George Washington - 60k euro
Hurricane Run - 30k euro
Ad Valorem / Aussie Rules - 15k euro

the top two look quite competitively priced!

[SniperSB23]

I hate the Sheikhs and Coolmre equally but why is there such backlash against the Darley retirements but hardly a mention of the completey ludicrous retirement of 3yo Aussie Rules?

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I hate the Sheikhs and Coolmre equally but why is there such backlash against the Darley retirements but hardly a mention of the completey ludicrous retirement of 3yo Aussie Rules?

I agree wiht you about Aussie. Though I am flat out sick and tired of good, sound 3 y/o being retired to stud. It is KILLING racing. AND........THEY DON'T EXACTLY NEED THE MONEY.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Honestly, before I had read this thread I had no idea he was being retired. I guess part of it is because Bernie and Henny hughes seemed to be in a completely different league as Aussie Rules.

They actually announced it before the BC. I just saw the $15,000 though. Why would you retire a sound 3yo for a $15,000 stud fee?

Beats the **** out of me. I don't know why you would retire a sound horse who is that good period. Especially if money is no obstacle. Take a page from Greg Gilchrist and Art Sherman, they didn't sell because Fog was a once in a lifetime horse.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

No idea. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, and you are right, Coolmore is guilty of it as well. Honestly, the breeding business is hurting the racing business. There is just so much money to be made in the breeding shed, but homestly it's not like the Shieks, or Coolmore are in need of more money, so it baffles me.

Though I agree that the bloodstock business is choking off the racing business, I think that you have to seperate Coolmore and the arabs. Coolmore is strictly a business whereas Shiekh Mo and the boys have a rather large hobby

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Though I agree that the bloodstock business is choking off the racing business, I think that you have to seperate Coolmore and the arabs. Coolmore is strictly a business whereas Shiekh Mo and the boys have a rather large hobby

I agree about the Shieks's treating things as a hobby. At least, some of their actions support it. But, I can't, as a racing fan, imagine retiring 2 of the best 3 y/o in the country to stud. They have very litle (repsectably speaking) to loose, and the world to win.

But why?
They don't need the money, and why not race the few great horses you have? It boggles the mind.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by QUANROSS

But why?
They don't need the money, and why not race the few great horses you have? It boggles the mind.

Looking over the coolmore stallion roster it does seem that Aussie Rules would not really be missed too much if they ran him another year.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Yeah I guess. Do you really think the Shieks aren't in it for the business part as well? I mean what other explanation is there for retiring Bernie AND Henny? At least Coolmore brought Hurricane Run back for another year.

They are in it for the ego part. They have failed miserably in producing an American stallion base and they now feel that they have 2 big pieces of the puzzle. Look up the stallions that they are currently standing in America Gainesborough/Shadwell/Darley and compare them with their chief rival Coolmores American stallion division.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

They are in it for the ego part. They have failed miserably in producing an American stallion base and they now feel that they have 2 big pieces of the puzzle. Look up the stallions that they are currently standing in America Gainesborough/Shadwell/Darley and compare them with their chief rival Coolmores American stallion division.

Totally agree...this is about cementing Darley @ Jonabell as a superior Stud farm in KY. They just completed renovations on the farm last year and now need a marquis stallion (or 2) to draw interest...They are running their operation as a business only to furthur the goal of being the biggest/most influential/most sought after (add your own phrase) lineup of stallions in the bluegrass.

[repent]

Originally Posted by brockguy

George Washington - 60k euro
Hurricane Run - 30k euro
Ad Valorem / Aussie Rules - 15k euro

the top two look quite competitively priced!

Brock,
what do you think HRun would have stood for had he been retired after last year's Arc?

Im more than happy they brought him back, but I think this son of Montjeu would have stood for more if he had not raced a step in 2006.


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[brockguy]

Originally Posted by repent

Brock,
what do you think HRun would have stood for had he been retired after last year's Arc?

Im more than happy they brought him back, but I think this son of Montjeu would have stood for more if he had not raced a step in 2006.


Repent

Repent, my guess in 80-100k.. as a world champ tag to his name, he'd get a lot of attention.. Oh by the way, what do you think of next year with all the little Falbravs, Hawk Wings and High Chaparrals running around?

[repent]

Originally Posted by brockguy

Repent, my guess in 80-100k.. as a world champ tag to his name, he'd get a lot of attention.. Oh by the way, what do you think of next year with all the little Falbravs, Hawk Wings and High Chaparrals running around?

thanks for the HRun opinion.
I was thinking the same, but I dont always have a good feel for the Euro market.

as for next year's first crop sires, I can not wait.
2003 was awesome with Hawk Wing, Dubai Destination, Dalakhani, Alamshar, High Chaparral, Nayef(my favorite) and of course the big horse, Falbrav running.
now we will start to see their offspring.
clear something up for me though.
where does Falbrav stand?
Im assuming in 2 locations depending on the time of year, but I thought it was announced after his retirement that he would stand in Japan along with other 2003 retirees Moon Ballad and Grandera.
but a friend told me he was in Newmarket.
wherever he is,
I just want to see his offspring run.
he was so game at 8-12f.
I guess we are a year away from Rakti and Doyen's runners.
want to see those also.



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