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10-28-2006, 06:45 PM
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Giacomo = No chance
Pretty obvious right?
But I hope that some people (although of course nobody on this board) are foolish enough to put some money on this horse in the classic. Everyone knows he is overmatched but some fools will probably take this approach: Giacomo + 10f + CD + large crowd + possible fast pace + huge price = BIG PAYDAY. Of course what these people are missing is that even if Giacomo does run the same race he ran in the Derby......he will be no better than sixth or seventh. He is not running against High Fly and Closing Argument this time. This horse is to me.....the biggest toss in the race. I am not a superfecta player but even if I was.....this horse would not get $1 from me. No matter what the pace scenario turns out to be.....he will NOT hit the board. 
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10-28-2006, 06:53 PM
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agreed, very little chance for this horse to hit the board !!! pace will be slow in my opinion.. so there goes Giacomo's chances..he get gets no love form me either.
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10-28-2006, 06:57 PM
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Posts against one particular horse are the most useless on the board.
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10-28-2006, 07:02 PM
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I don't see a KY Derby-like pace that sets up for him.
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10-28-2006, 07:58 PM
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I just think there will be some people who will like his chances because of the supposed similarities between this race and the Derby and.....I think they are wrong.
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10-28-2006, 08:04 PM
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10-28-2006, 08:07 PM
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exactly. its easy to say who will not win. tell me who will win. or at least if you are going to start a thread about taking a stand against a horse, start one about a favorite or short priced horse you are taking a stand against. Im hoping nobody is going to start a thread about how Super Frolic can not win either. no offense to the author of the thread, just to the idea behind it. Repent
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10-28-2006, 08:14 PM
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And by the way, I didn't just say that he would not win....I said he would not hit the board. Still not a tremendously bold statement I know.....but slightly bolder than you gave me credit for. By the way repent......great signature.
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10-28-2006, 08:21 PM
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thanks man. and i was just agreeing with scuds statement b/c we get alot of threads about who will not win. my comments were not really specific to anything you typed. agree, i just dont see Giacomo as having done anything to suggest that he can be competitive in a race like this. he has no shot. Bernardini is going to have to fall on his face to lose, unless David Junior moves way up on dirt. thats the only scenario I can see where Bernardini could be in a serious fight. GW could move up 10 lengths on dirt and it still would not put him on Bernardini's level. best of luck to you in this race. Im staying away from it except in the late pick 4 and I will single Bernardini in the pick 6 most likely. Repent
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10-28-2006, 08:22 PM
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Anyways,no 'Pent,haven't seen anything written by the lune you mentioned,but I don't check the old board.
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10-28-2006, 08:57 PM
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heres my take, if you dont like the thread dont post, start your own!!! btw Lava Man is your winner.
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10-28-2006, 09:02 PM
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ok, I can still have an opinion on the subject without totally agreeing with the logic behind the initial post of the thread. and how the hell can you think lava man will win the BCC with the handle that you use? did you pick that handle without actually watching the horse run? Repent
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10-28-2006, 09:40 PM
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10-28-2006, 09:35 PM
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10-28-2006, 09:48 PM
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so how is he going to pass a horse like Lava Man or Bernardini? no pace scenario can help this horse out enough to be competitive. Repent
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10-28-2006, 09:51 PM
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i've been high on invasor this year, and sure wouldn't mind seeing lava man pull out the undefeated season....
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10-29-2006, 12:16 AM
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Giacomo has little chance in the Classic but has ten times the chance that Perfect Drift has. Unlike the majority of the Cali horses Giacomo will actually move forward getting away from the landing strips on the west coast. No, he probably won't win but I fully expect him to hit the top five, unlike Perfect Drift. He's not as slow as people would like to make him out to be.
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10-28-2006, 07:26 PM
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Remember when Andy Beyer said Azeri wouldn't finish in the top half of the field? Managed a pretty respectable 5th against Ghostzapper and co. when her 2004 self was most definitely not peak form and Beyer snacked on some public crow. I'm not saying Giacomo's gonna nail it but I don't kick the underdog to feel better about myself.
Obviously many people also threw out Giacomo in the Derby. I heard many a crack that he shouldn't even be in the race and that it was pure Derby fever that got him entered. This is one situation where rather than put a horse very few people are touting down, then going 'I told you so' it's better to pick a horse lots of people expect to do well and be right when they bomb or a horse people hate and you go 'watch it, he'll win.' If you kick him and he's scraping the barrel at the end, where's the prize? It's like telling a kid who's not doing well in a class but he tries really hard and sometimes aces a quiz that he's going to flunk the final exam. Yeah I guess everybody wins if he fails...er..maybe not. If people include him and he doesn't reward them then goody for you, you'll end up with more money one would think. I'd let them root for Giacomo all they want.
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10-28-2006, 08:02 PM
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