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Old 05-16-2015, 06:11 PM
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Over what? It appear not much. Of course he had it all his way and Victor going for the lead on a sloppy track that AP loves was perfect. For a moment many were thinking he was coming back to the field entering the final turn but . . . taking a breather the others couldn't even catch him. And we all saw what happened next.

So the racing gods shined on AP today offering help from the dreaded inside post by bringing on the storm. He loved it and showed just how much he did.

Here we go again with a chance, with a chance. I would be very surprised if we see any (but a few) of his past rivals at the showing up for the Belmont. It may be a field of 5, who knows. That is 5 maybe that have a chance at all.
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Old 05-16-2015, 07:27 PM
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Pletcher might have 5 starters himself - they ain't going to hand Pharaoh anything.
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Old 05-16-2015, 07:38 PM
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Whoop doops . . . Pletcher might have 5 starters himself - they ain't going to hand Pharaoh anything.
Pletcher always goes with quantity over quality. What's his record in TC races and BC races for that matter? I don't expect him to get handed anything but who's out there . . . HELLO!?
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Old 05-16-2015, 08:14 PM
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What about AP makes him so vulnerable to ridiculous criticism?


He's speed crazy and won't rate, he is too slow and will have traffic problems.

He's overrated. He has perfect trips. The race was handed to him. He doesn't beat anyone that's good, he won't face tough competition next time out, etc.

Why aren't people appreciating a spectacular horse?

This really might just be a truly once in a blue moon horse. Enjoy him. They are rare.
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Old 05-16-2015, 08:34 PM
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What about AP makes him so vulnerable to ridiculous criticism?


He's speed crazy and won't rate, he is too slow and will have traffic problems.

He's overrated. He has perfect trips. The race was handed to him. He doesn't beat anyone that's good, he won't face tough competition next time out, etc.

Why aren't people appreciating a spectacular horse?

This really might just be a truly once in a blue moon horse. Enjoy him. They are rare.
let's hope so ...............
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Old 05-16-2015, 08:58 PM
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Whether he wins the Belmont or not, no reason he can't go on being special for the rest of his career. We're getting to see a horse this talented so I'm thrilled whatever happens. Obviously a Triple Crown would be great, but he's special regardless.

I assume those of us watching NBC all spied Haskin standing next to Baffert watching the race? I exclaimed and told my family who that was. They were all 'oh have you met him?' Nah, it's just great to see him on tv when you don't expect it. If American Pharoah wins the Belmont, the right eyes, ears, and brain are gonna be right there documenting the whole thing the way it deserves to be.
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Old 05-16-2015, 08:52 PM
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What about AP makes him so vulnerable to ridiculous criticism?


He's speed crazy and won't rate, he is too slow and will have traffic problems.

He's overrated. He has perfect trips. The race was handed to him. He doesn't beat anyone that's good, he won't face tough competition next time out, etc.

Why aren't people appreciating a spectacular horse?

This really might just be a truly once in a blue moon horse. Enjoy him. They are rare.
I love it. The AP/ALL/ALL $2 tri paid a gran. In a 7 horse race.

Whoever refuses to acknowledge the greatness of this horse is simply blinded by the potential windfall they haven't yet realized by betting against him.
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Old 05-16-2015, 09:11 PM
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I think I'd be more inclined to agree with the "greatness" thing if Tale of Verve hadn't finished 2nd.

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Old 05-16-2015, 10:05 PM
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What about AP makes him so vulnerable to ridiculous criticism?


He's speed crazy and won't rate, he is too slow and will have traffic problems.

He's overrated. He has perfect trips. The race was handed to him. He doesn't beat anyone that's good, he won't face tough competition next time out, etc.

Why aren't people appreciating a spectacular horse?

This really might just be a truly once in a blue moon horse. Enjoy him. They are rare.
Because it's so easy to throw stones. It makes for interesting, allows chest beating and if not ludicrous, banter.
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Old 05-16-2015, 10:29 PM
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What about AP makes him so vulnerable to ridiculous criticism?


He's speed crazy and won't rate, he is too slow and will have traffic problems.

He's overrated. He has perfect trips. The race was handed to him. He doesn't beat anyone that's good, he won't face tough competition next time out, etc.

Why aren't people appreciating a spectacular horse?

This really might just be a truly once in a blue moon horse. Enjoy him. They are rare.
My wife (the real T-bred authority) and I are optimistically guarded in our enthusiasm. We as all of you have been through this so many times before. The first I did after the race as I looked at her is said. "OK let's calm down and see what happens, lets play it cool this time", which we have been guilty of doing in past years with Silver Charm, Real Quiet, Smarty Jones, Big Brown and California Chrome . . . getting too wound up in the emotional side of it. It's the Irish in us I guess.

That said we will be emotionally guarded this year for all the right reasons but we want the TC jinx to be broken as badly as anyone!!!
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Old 05-17-2015, 08:29 AM
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What about AP makes him so vulnerable to ridiculous criticism?


He's speed crazy and won't rate, he is too slow and will have traffic problems.

He's overrated. He has perfect trips. The race was handed to him. He doesn't beat anyone that's good, he won't face tough competition next time out, etc.

Why aren't people appreciating a spectacular horse?

This really might just be a truly once in a blue moon horse. Enjoy him. They are rare.
If this was Phipps colt it would be the second coming of Messiah.. Its a colt owned and operated by newbies who have been extremely successful and lucky in what is an impossible business to win at
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Old 05-17-2015, 08:48 AM
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If this was Phipps colt it would be the second coming of Messiah.. Its a colt owned and operated by newbies who have been extremely successful and lucky in what is an impossible business to win at
I think you're a year late with this post. Oh well, you know what opinions are like. Everybody has one. Then again that's what this place is all about.
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What about AP makes him so vulnerable to ridiculous criticism?


He's speed crazy and won't rate, he is too slow and will have traffic problems.

He's overrated. He has perfect trips. The race was handed to him. He doesn't beat anyone that's good, he won't face tough competition next time out, etc.

Why aren't people appreciating a spectacular horse?

This really might just be a truly once in a blue moon horse. Enjoy him. They are rare.

well i have been supporting him all along. there are just a lot of haters on this board. know it alls who thrive on putting others down. since my dortmund-a.p. rivalry wont happen i'm all Pharaoh now. i hope it rains on belmont day cause he is 2 for 2 in the off going.

this is the year!!!!!
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Old 05-19-2015, 04:12 PM
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I think I'm starting to see what the AP detractor crowd is talking about.
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Old 05-19-2015, 10:21 PM
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well i have been supporting him all along. there are just a lot of haters on this board. know it alls who thrive on putting others down. since my dortmund-a.p. rivalry wont happen i'm all Pharaoh now. i hope it rains on belmont day cause he is 2 for 2 in the off going.

this is the year!!!!!
A mirror of life even here no less with haters and lovers . . . who'd a thunk it and when the Belmont starts I'll calmly collect myself to keep me from busting out of my DonGuido Irish skin . . . when he crosses the wire to simply win again!!!
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