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Old 06-09-2006, 08:57 AM
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Default Pick 4 6-10-6, belmont, help !

this is one heck of a race day !

anybody see a single in the 1 million dollar pick 4 ??

or even just two in one race ??

anybody ????
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Old 06-09-2006, 09:01 AM
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this is one heck of a race day !

anybody see a single in the 1 million dollar pick 4 ??

or even just two in one race ??

anybody ????
I really love Gorella if you are looking for just one short priced single. Pommes Frites will be loose early but I think Mirablis will try her on the turn with Wend not far behind that one. The Widener tends to highly favor closers, especially on off turf. I think Gorella will inhale them late, and her soft turf success in Europe puts aside fears of handling soft turf. In addition closers like Gorella often encounter traffic trouble, which has been teh case with her recently, even in her win at keeneland she was barely able to get through and up. WIth only 5 others horses to go between and around, I really can't see her losing.
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Old 06-09-2006, 09:03 AM
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thanks, but that one isn't in the pick 4

you got the 3yo sprint at 7f
the 3 yo fillies at 8f
the 10f turf
belmont
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Old 06-09-2006, 09:13 AM
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In that case I like cacique. In his debut, he acted like many Euros do in their US debuts. He got left and didnt handle the turns well. Reason for this is simple, in Europe horses are never asked or hustled out the gate. takes a start sometimes for them to break alertly and spend energy early, no matter how well they have been training.
IN his last he broke much better and showed more tactical speed. But prado deftly locked Pval in and wasn't gonna let him out. English Channel had a trip you dream at night of your bets getting. He laid a comfortable third right behind to horses setting a moderate pace that he was clearly superior to. When that happens you can make one move on the turn and open up daylight. The soft place left him plenty in the tank in the stretch. By the time Pval extricated cacique and got him clear, the race was over. I personally had given up on Cacique when I saw the fractions and watched EC make his move. I knew it was over. But Cacique actually teased those of us who bet him by still making a race of it late.
Belmont has wider, more euro style turns which he should handle better. Off the last race I think he is a better horse than EC and that the course and added ground and turf conditions should aid him more than EC. I can't see Grey Swallow after he just beat those inferior horses, and Relaxed gesture has a lot of "hang" to him. He did win the Canadian race quiet well, but in his other races against stakes compnay he doesnt seem to posess a lot of will to run by anyone in a dogfight. To me, cacique just really figures to roll here.
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Old 06-09-2006, 09:30 AM
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i don't care to include RG for the win after a trip from dubai,
noone wins first back from there.
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Old 06-09-2006, 09:40 AM
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In that case I like cacique. In his debut, he acted like many Euros do in their US debuts. He got left and didnt handle the turns well. Reason for this is simple, in Europe horses are never asked or hustled out the gate. takes a start sometimes for them to break alertly and spend energy early, no matter how well they have been training.
IN his last he broke much better and showed more tactical speed. But prado deftly locked Pval in and wasn't gonna let him out. English Channel had a trip you dream at night of your bets getting. He laid a comfortable third right behind to horses setting a moderate pace that he was clearly superior to. When that happens you can make one move on the turn and open up daylight. The soft place left him plenty in the tank in the stretch. By the time Pval extricated cacique and got him clear, the race was over. I personally had given up on Cacique when I saw the fractions and watched EC make his move. I knew it was over. But Cacique actually teased those of us who bet him by still making a race of it late.
Belmont has wider, more euro style turns which he should handle better. Off the last race I think he is a better horse than EC and that the course and added ground and turf conditions should aid him more than EC. I can't see Grey Swallow after he just beat those inferior horses, and Relaxed gesture has a lot of "hang" to him. He did win the Canadian race quiet well, but in his other races against stakes compnay he doesnt seem to posess a lot of will to run by anyone in a dogfight. To me, cacique just really figures to roll here.


SSHHHHHH!!! He's my single too... unfortunately, I still can't seem to trim down the other legs enough!!!
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Old 06-09-2006, 09:44 AM
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SSHHHHHH!!! He's my single too... unfortunately, I still can't seem to trim down the other legs enough!!!
Well thats because the other legs are nightmares for a pik-6 player. It means you posess common sense and have a firm grasp on reality Zippy.
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Old 06-09-2006, 01:07 PM
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I didn't even realize there was a $1 million pk 4 races 8-11.
I was handicapping the pk. 4 from races 10-13.
I'll probably play both, but the late pick 4 may offer more value, especially with two maiden races and big fields.
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Old 06-09-2006, 01:46 PM
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I didn't even realize there was a $1 million pk 4 races 8-11.
I was handicapping the pk. 4 from races 10-13.
I'll probably play both, but the late pick 4 may offer more value, especially with two maiden races and big fields.

if you have any secrets on how you're trimming up the 1 million dollars pick 4, let me know, cause it's tough!!
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