Ed DeRosa tweets get attention after the Shuvee

[Stickhorse]

Ed DeRosa tweeted this right after the Shuvee, on Saturday, in which Zenyatta's half sister Eblouissante finished last after winning her first two races in SoCal.



Ed DeRosa ‏@EJXD2
Now we know why Zenyatta never shipped East. That fate awaited her against real runners on a real surface.


Obviously Eddie D ruffled a few feathers here were some of the responses-

Marc Doche ‏@MDoche 20 Jul
Ridiculous tweet “@EJXD2: Now we know why Zenyatta never shipped East. That fate awaited her against real runners on a real surface.”

Alfredo ‏@PaddockEyes 20 Jul
@EJXD2 That hate-orade has been sitting out n the sun too long!

Racingwithbruno ‏@DeJulio 20 Jul
@EJXD2 man, Eddie, I like you, but that was as brutal as a cheap shot at Zenyatta, ever, no Bruno Works for you @Brisnet

GQ Mamba ‏@its_Drew32 20 Jul
Oaklawn gr.1? RT“@EJXD2: Now we know why Zenyatta never shipped East. That fate awaited her against real runners on a real surface.”

samantha siegel ‏@jayemesssam 20 Jul
@EJXD2 she's not her clone Ed! Big gaps between races a big clue. Stupid argument!

Graham Cunningham ‏@gcunning12 20 Jul
@EJXD2 A truly preposterous viewpoint.

Connie ‏@MsVFAB 20 Jul
@EJXD2 The little boy in you likes to light the match and watch the explosion.

Patti Davis ‏@ShuveeIL 20 Jul
@jayemesssam @EJXD2 A rare time when Ed is just sooooo totally on a different planet. E. was vulnerable even if stepping up on west coast.

Alfredo ‏@PaddockEyes 20 Jul
@jayemesssam @EJXD2 Zenyatta is a Hall of Famer, Ebby has never been in big sis' class.

Larry Zap ‏@larryzapeye 20 Jul
@jayemesssam @EJXD2 Thank You Sam...So Absurd a statement. #silly

Susan Cloos ‏@SusanCloos 20 Jul
@MsVFAB @EJXD2 Yeah I wasn't falling for it.

Ed DeRosa ‏@EJXD2 20 Jul
@SusanCloos @MsVFAB You're one of the few...

Ed DeRosa ‏@EJXD2 20 Jul
@DeJulio @EJXD2 Don't make me use the other guys, Bruno!

Racingwithbruno ‏@DeJulio 20 Jul
@EJXD2 go ahead Ed put Tullman in your stable mail

[Payson Dave]

the incident in the gate knocked a tooth out and resulted in some bleeding from a cut on an ankle

[randallscott35]

Apples and oranges obviously but the idea that you can't criticize Zenyatta's competition is ridiculous. The West Coast gang just can't hear of it. Say a Thank You prayer for Blame every night before bed.

[10 pnt move up]

There are some people that believe unless you win at Saratoga somehow you are not deemed "worthy". We saw that with Azeri back in the day, then she won there and suddenly she was truly a great horse. Most people don't feel like that but some do, obviously this guy does.

Zenyatta accomplished enough on dirt you would think she was past that type of criticism but some people have their own agenda.

[pweizer]

Zenyatta did ship east and run on dirt twice if memory serves. She was dominant at Oaklawn and missed by a nose in the Breeders Cup Classic at Churchill.

Zenyatta did get a ton of hype. I don't know if she was an all time great. But, the idea that she couldn't run on a real surface strikes me as plain silly.

Paul

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by pweizer

Zenyatta did ship east and run on dirt twice if memory serves. She was dominant at Oaklawn and missed by a nose in the Breeders Cup Classic at Churchill.

Zenyatta did get a ton of hype. I don't know if she was an all time great. But, the idea that she couldn't run on a real surface strikes me as plain silly.

Paul

Yes, 2 dirt starts, the rest all in Cali and all on synthetic and most against tin cans...but I don't want to rehash Zenyatta, its more the concept that you can't take a weary eye to her accomplishments without being attacked.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Yes, 2 dirt starts, the rest all in Cali and all on synthetic and most against tin cans...but I don't want to rehash Zenyatta, its more the concept that you can't take a weary eye to her accomplishments without being attacked.

Shouldn't you get your facts straight?

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Shouldn't you get your facts straight?

I'm sure I should. Have 2 kids 2 and under, I don't sleep, I'm sure I'm wrong about most things

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Yes, 2 dirt starts, the rest all in Cali and all on synthetic and most against tin cans...but I don't want to rehash Zenyatta, its more the concept that you can't take a weary eye to her accomplishments without being attacked.

she turned them into tin cans. how can you be so obtuse ? Broke every fillies spirit that she passed, which was every single one of them.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

she turned them into tin cans. how can you be so obtuse ? Broke every fillies spirit that she passed, which was every single one of them.

OMG, do a search for Calzone Lord or whatever he was called back in the day based on her competition and what they accomplished. It is enlightening....I am now done with this thread.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by pweizer

Zenyatta did ship east and run on dirt twice if memory serves. She was dominant at Oaklawn and missed by a nose in the Breeders Cup Classic at Churchill.

Zenyatta did get a ton of hype. I don't know if she was an all time great. But, the idea that she couldn't run on a real surface strikes me as plain silly.

Paul

I'm pretty sure this was done as a rouse to evoke responses from these people





and shouldn't be taken seriously.

[10 pnt move up]

Too further my point lets take Game On Dude, who by every measure is a very very good horse. He has run on dirt and synthetic, in exclusively grade 1 or 2 competition, ran extremely fast figures, ran a super second in the BC Classic while shipping to Churchill but he has yet to win at Saratoga, and to a lesser extent Belmont. There is a perception out there that he just is ok and winning because he runs in California where the reality is he wins because he is very very good.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Too further my point lets take Game On Dude, who by every measure is a very very good horse. He has run on dirt and synthetic, in exclusively grade 1 or 2 competition, ran extremely fast figures, ran a super second in the BC Classic while shipping to Churchill but he has yet to win at Saratoga, and to a lesser extent Belmont. There is a perception out there that he just is ok and winning because he runs in California where the reality is he wins because he is very very good.

I am lost on this Saratoga point. I don't care whether a horse runs during this 6 week meet or not, just the general level of competition wherever it is. AQ is fine. And pretty in November.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Too further my point lets take Game On Dude, who by every measure is a very very good horse. He has run on dirt and synthetic, in exclusively grade 1 or 2 competition, ran extremely fast figures, ran a super second in the BC Classic while shipping to Churchill but he has yet to win at Saratoga, and to a lesser extent Belmont. There is a perception out there that he just is ok and winning because he runs in California where the reality is he wins because he is very very good.

This is complete and utter BS. You just made this up out of thin air. We praise Game on Dude constantly as arguably the best horse in the country. Please, find some examples from credible people that supports your contention.

This kind of paranoia is just plain silly.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Too further my point lets take Game On Dude, who by every measure is a very very good horse. He has run on dirt and synthetic, in exclusively grade 1 or 2 competition, ran extremely fast figures, ran a super second in the BC Classic while shipping to Churchill but he has yet to win at Saratoga, and to a lesser extent Belmont. There is a perception out there that he just is ok and winning because he runs in California where the reality is he wins because he is very very good.

Where is this perception? Game on Dude has danced every dance, I have never heard anyone say that because he has won races in California he is just ok.

The criticism about Zenyatta was the level of competition she was generally placed against, not that she was based in California.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by pweizer

Zenyatta did ship east and run on dirt twice if memory serves. She was dominant at Oaklawn and missed by a nose in the Breeders Cup Classic at Churchill.

Zenyatta did get a ton of hype. I don't know if she was an all time great. But, the idea that she couldn't run on a real surface strikes me as plain silly.

Paul

She won twice at OP, though that really isn't "east". East of California, sure.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

She won twice at OP, though that really isn't "east". East of California, sure.

She flew over those treacherous Rockies. What more do you want?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by pweizer

Zenyatta did ship east and run on dirt twice if memory serves. She was dominant at Oaklawn and missed by a nose in the Breeders Cup Classic at Churchill.

Zenyatta did get a ton of hype. I don't know if she was an all time great. But, the idea that she couldn't run on a real surface strikes me as plain silly.

Paul

not zenyatta again...

but i have to say, i can't believe arkansas is now considered 'east'. she shipped in an easterly direction, but i do believe that states on the western side of the mississippi river aren't considered eastern states. matter of fact, i think the original line of demarcation was the appalachians...this side of the cumberland gap is east?

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Danzig

not zenyatta again...

but i have to say, i can't believe arkansas is now considered 'east'. she shipped in an easterly direction, but i do believe that states on the western side of the mississippi river aren't considered eastern states. matter of fact, i think the original line of demarcation was the appalachians...this side of the cumberland gap is east?

Quiet Yankee!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Quiet Yankee!

lol

i was born in maryland, south of the mason dixon...thus, not a yankee.

of course people down here think if you were born north of I-40, that you're a yankee (i guess i'm a damn yankee, as i came down and never left!).