Ness busted again at tampa

[Rudeboyelvis]

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/ra...fun-out-of-it/

[Aly-Sheba]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/ra...fun-out-of-it/

I think Adam Kitchingma is the only one who ever admitted milkshaking and took his punishment. Seems like everyone else is always innocent and so surprised!

[freddymo]

Ness is NOT a juicer..

[Rudeboyelvis]

>>>Tampa Bay Downs leading trainer Jamie Ness has been fined $2,000 and horses from his stable entered for the next 30 days at the Tampa-area track are required to be under 24-hour pre-race security watch after the Ness runner Awesome Mich tested over the 37.0 total carbon dioxide threshold on March 17. <<<

This will be interesting to watch him explain the drop off over the next 30 days. I hope Paulick goes after him with the same vigor he goes after the pro-lasix people with.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

This will be interesting to watch him explain the drop off over the next 30 days..

There doesn't have to necessarily be a drop off if they're shaking widely. Giving horses milkshake bullets -- essentially antacid tablets -- to lower lactic acid levels has gotten pretty sophisticated to the point where horses test just below the accepted CO2 level. But since they metabolize at different rates, not every horse necessarily will test under.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Kasept

There doesn't have to necessarily be a drop off if they're shaking widely. Giving horses milkshake bullets -- essentially antacid tablets -- to lower lactic acid levels has gotten pretty sophisticated to the point where horses test just below the accepted CO2 level. But since they metabolize at different rates, not every horse necessarily will test under.

Understand Steve - what's interesting is that apparently the stewards notify the trainer with a warning if they test between 35 - 37 and issue fines above 37. So this horse came back with a 38 after running a well beaten 5th.

And that to me is the troubling aspect

I think the track itself is trying to do the right thing, but much like when the Doug Oneill story came to the surface during the Triple Crown last year, the only reports are of horses that tested positive, but "no worries, the horse wasn't a factor in the race".

I've never seen a story like this come out where one of his horses that wins first off the claim by open lengths, moving up 20 beyer points off a career top in the process, gets a positive. It is always these also-rans.

They've raided his barn on at least two occasions that I know of, so they had to have reason to suspect more than an innocuous 12.5 claimer running 5th barely over the limit to put him under 24 hour pre-race surveillance.

If it came out that these miraculous move ups were actually unreported positives, the bettors would flee in droves.

I've personally just accepted him as part of the landscape. Unfortunately, he affects my ROI because he has to be included (at ridiculously low prices) on a number of occasions where any other trainer would be left off, so in that respect he increases handle which is a positive for the track, hence the toothless attempts to ban him, yet keep up the appearance that they are proactively addressing him.
The bright side is that he is also remarkably human (sub 15%) on a number of angles where he is consistently overbet, and taking advantage of those races can make up for his impact on the game.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

>>>Tampa Bay Downs leading trainer Jamie Ness has been fined $2,000 and horses from his stable entered for the next 30 days at the Tampa-area track are required to be under 24-hour pre-race security watch after the Ness runner Awesome Mich tested over the 37.0 total carbon dioxide threshold on March 17. <<<

This will be interesting to watch him explain the drop off over the next 30 days. I hope Paulick goes after him with the same vigor he goes after the pro-lasix people with.

So he pays 2k and still gets to train and run horses at the track.
That seems like a fair punishment

[ateamstupid]

Check out High Native Fly's run in today's 8th for an answer on whether Ness's barn would suffer from these super serious sanctions.

[k9styl94]

What track & what race

[Arletta]

Originally Posted by k9styl94

What track & what race

See what track is listed in the title of the thread.

[k9styl94]

DaH