bcs games

[Danzig]

nick saban had an interesting point the other day.

winner of the sec championship is going to the title game. the loser won't get a bcs bid, but will drop below fla. why? why does florida get to benefit by losing one game, not winning the east, and then moving ahead of the sec #2? in the gold medal games in olympics, the team who loses gets the silver-not the bronze.
of course, it's ironic that nicky is the one mentioning it. he benefitted from the same screwy system last year, that saw his team on the outside looking on on sec championship day, but still get to the title game.


as for the bcs bowls....whoever set these up should be whipped. teams play their tails off, and get left out because of automatic bowls for some conferences. so top ten teams will go to lesser bowls, and some crappy teams will get the good ones. but we all know why. it's not for anything other than money, so that a school gets in and gets the money to share with its fellow conference members. whacky stuff.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Danzig

nick saban had an interesting point the other day.

winner of the sec championship is going to the title game. the loser won't get a bcs bid, but will drop below fla. why? why does florida get to benefit by losing one game, not winning the east, and then moving ahead of the sec #2? in the gold medal games in olympics, the team who loses gets the silver-not the bronze.
of course, it's ironic that nicky is the one mentioning it. he benefitted from the same screwy system last year, that saw his team on the outside looking on on sec championship day, but still get to the title game.


as for the bcs bowls....whoever set these up should be whipped. teams play their tails off, and get left out because of automatic bowls for some conferences. so top ten teams will go to lesser bowls, and some crappy teams will get the good ones. but we all know why. it's not for anything other than money, so that a school gets in and gets the money to share with its fellow conference members. whacky stuff.

What would be so wrong about the SEC Champ game loser (who will have 2 conf losses) not getting in while a 1-loss Fla does? I understand UGA fans may b.itch about having beaten Fla, but they were extraordinarily fortunate to win that game.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

What would be so wrong about the SEC Champ game loser (who will have 2 conf losses) not getting in while a 1-loss Fla does? I understand UGA fans may b.itch about having beaten Fla, but they were extraordinarily fortunate to win that game.

Because the team they beat to play in the championship (extra) game moves ahead of them by NOT playing? It doesnt matter if GA was fortunate to beat FL because the system only penalizes losses.

The problem is the SEC championship game (and ACC and Pac 12, etc) is a farce that is created soley for a paycheck for the conference. It has almost nothing to do with the BCS which is supposedly the way that the national championship is determined. Last year Alabama which didnt even play in the conference championship game and yet still played for the Nat'l championship and won Nat'l Championship.

College football has an imperfect system mostly because of greed. It isnt that different than racing but they do a better job of hiding it.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Because the team they beat to play in the championship (extra) game moves ahead of them by NOT playing? It doesnt matter if GA was fortunate to beat FL because the system only penalizes losses.

The problem is the SEC championship game (and ACC and Pac 12, etc) is a farce that is created soley for a paycheck for the conference. It has almost nothing to do with the BCS which is supposedly the way that the national championship is determined. Last year Alabama which didnt even play in the conference championship game and yet still played for the Nat'l championship and won Nat'l Championship.

College football has an imperfect system mostly because of greed. It isnt that different than racing but they do a better job of hiding it.

exactly!
fla doesn't get to play for the conference, didn't win their division, so they're going to get a better bowl. how does that make sense? the division east and west winners should be sec #'s 1 and 2. sec #1 goes to the title, so sec #2 gets the sugar. a runner up shouldn't be able to leapfrog the division winner who played for the conference championship. the loser tomorrow should get the sugar, not florida. if they didn't have a championship game, ga or ala would get the sugar bowl. so let's penalize one of the two because there's a game?

[horseofcourse]

My favorite this year is a team that went 4-4 in a pretty weak big 10 this year could make the BCS. I'd say Wisconsin has a 50-50 shot to beat Nebraska. I find it all a joke. AFter a full season of football it's obvious who deserves the BCS bid in the probation laden Big 10...it's Nebraska. Thankfully Notre Dame did save the BCS from a duplicate situation this year with the SEC champ playing Florida for the title. I'll watch the championship game this year, I didn't last year. Had no interest for me. I understand the SEC is the best conference in football, but the title game last year was meaningless.

Until the NCAA completely ends it, the BCS, bowl system etc, they are hypocritical beyond comprehension with their money whoring. Get rid of conference championship games, end the seaon Thanksgiving weekend, and have a 16 team playoff and have the championship game at a warm weather neutal site. The end. It seems to work at division 1-AA, 2, and 3 just fine. They have even expanded beyond 16 teams I think with higher seeds getting first round byes. It would work and everyone knows it would work.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

My favorite this year is a team that went 4-4 in a pretty weak big 10 this year could make the BCS. I'd say Wisconsin has a 50-50 shot to beat Nebraska. I find it all a joke. AFter a full season of football it's obvious who deserves the BCS bid in the probation laden Big 10...it's Nebraska. Thankfully Notre Dame did save the BCS from a duplicate situation this year with the SEC champ playing Florida for the title. I'll watch the championship game this year, I didn't last year. Had no interest for me. I understand the SEC is the best conference in football, but the title game last year was meaningless.

Until the NCAA completely ends it, the BCS, bowl system etc, they are hypocritical beyond comprehension with their money whoring. Get rid of conference championship games, end the seaon Thanksgiving weekend, and have a 16 team playoff and have the championship game at a warm weather neutal site. The end. It seems to work at division 1-AA, 2, and 3 just fine. They have even expanded beyond 16 teams I think with higher seeds getting first round byes. It would work and everyone knows it would work.

sure it would work.

it's the money. all about the money. for many of these schools, the football program funds the rest of their sports. maryland for example cut 8-9 sports in the past year, they didn't have the funds.

playoffs work for the smaller schools because they don't have a lucrative bowl system already in place. you can bet your behind if fbs finds a way for playoffs to pay what bowls do, they'll change. until then, forget it.
they made the deals to take conference champs to keep money going to more schools. if you go by top ten alone, you'll have sec taking home the bulk of the cash. in the current system, you have many schools sharing the tv wealth. change to playoffs, and that will all go away. then only a few schools would have the funds, and the others would disappear.