Dullahan

Calzone Lord · #1 05-05-2012, 08:04 PM

He completely hung like a Chandelier.

When Desormeaux wheeled him outside of Creative Cause near about the 3/8ths pole...it looked like an absolute forgone conclusion and the only question would be how far he'd win by.

Thank God they don't have in-race betting in the United States yet ... because I'd have lost a fortune on him on the far turn.

He was intially moving so well but his stretch kick just has way more grind to it on dirt than the other surfaces.

Bodemeister ran a sensational race and was open lengths better than anyone else. Sucks for him that the hopeless Trinniberg was entered and he was forced needing to match strides with a sprinter through a 22 1/5 opening quarter at 10fs.

Anyway, fun weekend of racing. Nice to see Pletcher go 1-for-19 at CD and BEL over the weekend ... his lone winner coming in a NY Bred MCL race with a 1-to-2 favorite who held on over bombs of 37/1 and 47/1 in a driving finish.

slotdirt · #2 05-05-2012, 08:13 PM

Bodemeister wins if Trinniberg isn't entered. True?

Calzone Lord · #3 05-05-2012, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

Bodemeister wins if Trinniberg isn't entered. True?

By open lengths.

Probably a five or six length victory under very minimal urging -- and most likely wrapped up with Smith celebrating with a fist pump well before the finish line -- if Trinniberg doesn't run.

Dominguez was always commited to rating Hansen -- just like he was commited to rating Get Stormy in the Little Mike race.

keithting · #4 05-05-2012, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

By open lengths.

Probably a five or six length victory under very minimal urging -- and most likely wrapped up with Smith celebrating with a fist pump well before the finish line -- if Trinniberg doesn't run.

Dominguez was always commited to rating Hansen -- just like he was commited to rating Get Stormy in the Little Mike race.

In my humble opinion, I totally agree. Bodemeister ran a "hole in the wind" and I still cannot believe that he was anywhere near the leaders at the finish. What a horse !! And what a masterful job of training by BB. No bounce in his performance......

wac · #5 05-05-2012, 08:52 PM

i thought that creative cause made a big move going into turn 4(nascar talk)

pmayjr · #6 05-05-2012, 09:04 PM

I had Creative Cause... he was so wide. My win $ was on him... No way he gets to the top 2... but he flattened in the stretch because of that wide move too. Maybe coulda gotten 3rd?

KirisClown · #7 05-05-2012, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

Bodemeister wins if Trinniberg isn't entered. True?

It's a shame how it all played out.. Bodemesiter ran too well to lose.. But, the Parboo's got their Derby "experience" and that's all that really matters..

horseofcourse · #8 05-06-2012, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

Bodemeister wins if Trinniberg isn't entered. True?

No. Absolutely not. He did it all on his own. I explained it in my last post. It was meaningless.

jms62 · #9 05-06-2012, 10:09 AM

Note to self. Auto-Toss winners of New York Derby preps until I get beat.

Travis Stone · #10 05-06-2012, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62

Note to self. Auto-Toss winners of New York Derby preps until I get beat.

There were a lot of total non-efforts from a lot of horses yesterday. Very few legitimate horses from the spring even put in a hint of a run.

Indian Charlie · #11 05-06-2012, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62

Note to self. Auto-Toss winners of New York Derby preps until I get beat.

I don't know man, Eskenderaya and I Want Revenge would have been pretty live.

I think the winner of the Wood last year got hurt as well.

Keep in mind that Gemologist had his hands full with the likes of Alpha, which didn't really bode well for his chances yesterday.

jms62 · #12 05-06-2012, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I don't know man, Eskenderaya and I Want Revenge would have been pretty live.

I think the winner of the Wood last year got hurt as well.

Keep in mind that Gemologist had his hands full with the likes of Alpha, which didn't really bode well for his chances yesterday.

It is simply a way for me to ride the trend and eliminate a few lower odds horses. When I get beat I will start including them. Some may think it is absurd but thats fine.

MaTH716 · #13 05-06-2012, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62

Note to self. Auto-Toss winners of New York Derby preps until I get beat.

Yeah, but truthfully haven't people been saying that about the California contingents the last few years?

jms62 · #14 05-06-2012, 10:50 AM

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Yeah, but truthfully haven't people been saying that about the California contingents the last few years?

For me that changed when they went back to dirt...

tywizard · #15 05-05-2012, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

He completely hung like a Chandelier.

When Desormeaux wheeled him outside of Creative Cause near about the 3/8ths pole...it looked like an absolute forgone conclusion and the only question would be how far he'd win by.

Thank God they don't have in-race betting in the United States yet ... because I'd have lost a fortune on him on the far turn.

He was intially moving so well but his stretch kick just has way more grind to it on dirt than the other surfaces.

Bodemeister ran a sensational race and was open lengths better than anyone else. Sucks for him that the hopeless Trinniberg was entered and he was forced needing to match strides with a sprinter through a 22 1/5 opening quarter at 10fs.

Anyway, fun weekend of racing. Nice to see Pletcher go 1-for-19 at CD and BEL over the weekend ... his lone winner coming in a NY Bred MCL race with a 1-to-2 favorite who held on over bombs of 37/1 and 47/1 in a driving finish.

I know it doesn't matter but I can't wait for the Trakus data on Dullahan. He was in the 8 path it seemed like.

pweizer · #16 05-05-2012, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tywizard

I know it doesn't matter but I can't wait for the Trakus data on Dullahan. He was in the 8 path it seemed like.

Creative Cause too. Could he have been any wider around the far turn?

Paul

Calzone Lord · #17 05-05-2012, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tywizard

I know it doesn't matter but I can't wait for the Trakus data on Dullahan. He was in the 8 path it seemed like.

That's not a real excuse for Dullhan though, IMO.

He was certain to get the dream pace setup -- obviously he got it.

The only thing I was really even hoping for is that he would get switched out for a clear run in the stretch. He got that.

His stretch kick was just VERY mediocre today. He turned out more like a Paddy O' Prado finish than an Animal Kingdom finish ... and that was always the fear.

The Romans barn continues to do well on big days with the home cooking at Churchill Downs. He won 3 Graded Stakes at CD this weekend and no other trainer got more than one.

Derby setup closers always have a terrible record in the rest of the triple crown races. Dullahan becomes a no-brainer toss for me in any big dirt races going forward.

DaTruth · #18 05-05-2012, 10:27 PM

Optimizer almost split the field. DWL will call it a confidence booster and start making plans for the Preakness.

Calzone Lord · #19 05-05-2012, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth

Optimizer almost split the field. DWL will call it a confidence booster and start making plans for the Preakness.

And Lukas won a race at like 15/1 early in the day! He was on fire today.

aaronrodgers · #20 05-06-2012, 12:40 AM

Went The Day Well past all of the leaders 50 yds past the wire. Just took him to long to get it into gear. I'll never bet another horse with Leparoux as the jockey. Two jumps out the gate and he's already giving up the chance to try and get closer to the pace but instead takes the horse up under wraps and is ahead of 1 horse in the 1st turn. What a sucky ride he gave today.