Charles Town Spill -- 7 of 8 horses DNF.

Calzone Lord · #1 03-01-2012, 05:37 AM

I was at my girlfriends last night for dinner and I bet a stupid basketball game because she doesn't get any horse racing on her cable.

LSU is up 11 points at halftime at home and I think the game is in hand. We go to the casino at halftime for drinks and LSU starts to have a meltdown. They have a chance to win the game and cover with a layup at the buzzer and blow it. They lost in OT.

Anyway, I had already bet a Scooter Davis horse in the 8th race at Charles Town on the computer before I left. Scooter the Shooter claimed him from a low percentage trainer and he popped a 79 Beyer 1st off the claim two starts back. Last out, the jock blew the irons on him coming out of the gate. Winning Beyer par for the class level was only a 68 and Scooter's horse was 4-to-1 on the ML.

I'm seriously having the most miserable time ever watching LSU fucl< up in the 2nd half. People who bet basketball and have to put up with that torture to try and win a bet that pays less than even money... I feel for them.

I get so annoyed that I press up and go to the window and bet Scooter's horse...as you can see thanks to my cell phone camera.

To make a long story short... the leader breaks down going into the turn and Scooter's horse is the only one in the race who actually finishes.

The inquiry sign was up for atleast 30 minutes...but they paid the win, place, and show on the winner. The horse paid $5.60 to win, $7.60 to place, and $7.40 to show. Instead of refunding all exotics -- they also paid the exacta and trifecta as a 3-all or 3-all-all.

I wasn't sure of the rules...but I was expecting the race to be declared a 'no contest' and all bets refunded. Every horse but the leader who broke down was ok. Not sure about the jockeys...a couple of them bit the dust on the turn of a 4.5 furlong sprint and are probably not OK.

Here is the result chart: http://www1.drf.com/drfPDFChartRaces...=20120229&RN=8

One of the craziest races I've ever watched in my entire life.

#2 03-01-2012, 06:00 AM

If that game didn't kill Dale Brown nothing will.

Calzone Lord · #3 03-01-2012, 06:41 AM

Video of the spill at Charles Town...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-rQofsWM9Q

dagolfer33 · #4 03-01-2012, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Video of the spill at Charles Town...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-rQofsWM9Q

The hardest thing to understand in this whole situation is......how can you bet on LSU....they are so erratic it's unnerving. I went to the PMAC and watched the GA game last Wed. and they should have been up the whole game by 15, but it was close to the end, they don't do the little things very well sometimes and it costs them.

robfla · #5 03-01-2012, 10:32 AM

why was there a consolation "ALL" paid on the pick 3 and double closing in that race? Doesn't seem right if they paid the win slot. I guess that's WV for you.

Calzone Lord · #6 03-01-2012, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by dagolfer33

The hardest thing to understand in this whole situation is......how can you bet on LSU.

I got inside information that Meyer Lansky bet Tennessee.

dagolfer33 · #7 03-01-2012, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I got inside information that Meyer Lansky bet Tennessee.

That's a good angle, almost as good as......well......you know.

dagolfer33 · #8 03-01-2012, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

If that game didn't kill Dale Brown nothing will.

We need Dale to come back and coach now.

#9 03-01-2012, 06:54 AM

...and still went a 42 for the half.

I checked google news, drf, equidaily, and paulick...no update or mention on the main page...unless it's buried somewhere.

Calzone Lord · #10 03-01-2012, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

...and still went a 42 for the half.

I'm positive that half mile fraction isn't correct. The timing beam at the 1/16th pole was probably tripped by a person or outrider who crossed it by the outside fence to head in the direction of the spill before the #3 got there.

The way I was explained it by a photo finish guy... is that the timing beam starts 20 seconds after the previous quarter mile... and anything that passes the beam after that point will stop the timer. If a spyder is crawling across it, it could trip it. A bird could trip it. A bee could trip it. Tracks like Tampa and Gulfstream that are loaded with insects and birds are notorious for bad clockings. Where as a track like Aqueduct -- New York City in the dead of winter -- is less likey to have those problems. They have a practical swamp with a gator in the infield at Tampa.

golfer · #11 03-01-2012, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I'm positive that half mile fraction isn't correct. The timing beam at the 1/16th pole was probably tripped by a person or outrider who crossed it by the outside fence to head in the direction of the spill before the #3 got there.

The way I was explained it by a photo finish guy... is that the timing beam starts 20 seconds after the previous quarter mile... and anything that passes the beam after that point will stop the timer. If a spyder is crawling across it, it could trip it. A bird could trip it. A bee could trip it. Tracks like Tampa and Gulfstream that are loaded with insects and birds are notorious for bad clockings. Where as a track like Aqueduct -- New York City in the dead of winter -- is less likey to have those problems. They have a practical swamp with a gator in the infield at Tampa.

It's just your average Florida retention pond, and according to a reliable source (initials RG), the gator hasn't been seen in months.

But sea gulls, that's a different story

VOL JACK · #12 03-01-2012, 08:18 AM

Go Vols!!!

cmorioles · #13 03-01-2012, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I'm positive that half mile fraction isn't correct. The timing beam at the 1/16th pole was probably tripped by a person or outrider who crossed it by the outside fence to head in the direction of the spill before the #3 got there.

Thanks for that, we all thought the 42 was correct.

#14 03-01-2012, 08:45 AM

They don't call him Scooter for nothin.

Danzig · #15 03-01-2012, 09:12 AM

what i don't understand is how it wasn't declared no contest.

trackrat59 · #16 03-01-2012, 03:00 PM

For those of you hopeful that there were as few injuries to jockeys and horses as possible under these circumstances, here's an update.

One jockey in the hospital with no life threatening injuries and one horse lost. Amazing that is was not more.

http://www.dailyjournal.net/view/sto...ockey-Injured/

Danzig · #17 03-01-2012, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by trackrat59

For those of you hopeful that there were as few injuries to jockeys and horses as possible under these circumstances, here's an update.

One jockey in the hospital with no life threatening injuries and one horse lost. Amazing that is was not more.

http://www.dailyjournal.net/view/sto...ockey-Injured/

that is amazing considering that whole incident. also read that the race just before that one had a horse break down. i know CT is saying the track conditions aren't what made them cancel the final race, but knowing that two races in a row had incidents, i'm not so sure i believe that.

trackrat59 · #18 03-01-2012, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

that is amazing considering that whole incident. also read that the race just before that one had a horse break down. i know CT is saying the track conditions aren't what made them cancel the final race, but knowing that two races in a row had incidents, i'm not so sure i believe that.

CT is dangerous. I can't tell you how many breakdowns I've seen first hand happening at one particular area of the track. They should fix the issues once and for all or shut the place down.

I don't go there any more.

Riot · #19 03-01-2012, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by trackrat59

CT is dangerous. I can't tell you how many breakdowns I've seen first hand happening at one particular area of the track. They should fix the issues once and for all or shut the place down.

I don't go there any more.

Wish they would take off the cushion, save it; scrape off the base, and re-lay it. The heave and frost has got to eventually, over the years, cause any base to have uneven places and holes if a horse hits it right. Chuck?

Cannon Shell · #20 03-01-2012, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

Wish they would take off the cushion, save it; scrape off the base, and re-lay it. The heave and frost has got to eventually, over the years, cause any base to have uneven places and holes if a horse hits it right. Chuck?

I refuse to set foot in WV tracks (and it isnt as though I have high standards) therefore I have no idea what happens at CT but reliable sources tell me that they don't put much effort into maintaining the track or backstretch which is supposedly deplorable. I'm sure this wont endear me to any trainers in that area that can actually read but the quality of horsemanship in PA is shockingly low and supposedly they tower over the WV crew. Of course I also have a theory that management of certain tracks with casinos in this region are hoping for as much bad news as possible to help them in their quest to get rid of racing.