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01-08-2012, 09:53 AM
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It was a comeback race and he ran well in his stretch-out debut.
He's going to be tough to beat in whatever spot he runs back in. I doubt his best game is going to be a classic distance but he is by Eddington and Baffert is going to do all he can to give him every shot at being a Classic distance type horse. He's a prospect until he does something to label himself a suspect. 
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01-08-2012, 12:20 PM
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I thought he ran huge.
Not sure he's a true Derby prospect, but stranger things have happened. Definitely a bang up miler.
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01-08-2012, 01:38 PM
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I must have watched a different race than you guys.
He might be able to beat a couple of 5 horse fields, but I think he'll be exposed as the distances get farther. He was already exposed at a mile. He had an extremely soft trip, never really got clear of Longview Drive and got run down late. Nice sprinter/miler. I'll be shocked of he is a factor as the distances increase.
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01-08-2012, 02:46 PM
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Just more nebulous nonsense from BBB
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01-08-2012, 03:04 PM
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The blinkers worked on Longview Drive. He showed a dramatic improvement in tactical speed and it allowed him an uncontested lead. The Beyer came back a 99. I guess I could examine it to see if it was a completely rubbish figure... but show me who else has run that fast in a two-turn route? Horses are winning Graded Stakes with mid 80's.
Assuming the figure can be trusted -- I don't care much what Longview Drive's prior form looked like. He ran the race he ran. Secret Circle's style wins Derby preps. Horses stretching out off of Fast early-Slow Late 6f races and get rated off the lead in two-turn routes never run to peak. I think he's good enough to win a big prep or two if he stays sound and all. I think Hoss's analysis would have been perfect if the race didn't come back as fast as it did. Where are the other fast races to this point?
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01-08-2012, 04:05 PM
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01-09-2012, 01:01 PM
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Liked him in what sense? Im a fan of his, have been since his debut. I know you will likely lie about it, but Im the one who told you about Secret Circle, if you recall you told me you had not even heard of him.... Anyway, I liked him and the Assman horse. Was disapointed with both of them. I thought Hierro would be OK. I did not bet anything on the race, have not really been doing much latley. If you asked me who I though would win before the race I would have said Secret Circle, and Hierro could have gave him a good run. I was way wrong.
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01-09-2012, 01:10 PM
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You told me about him after he won at Del Mar. I remember well.
Who are the Baffert horses you don't like?
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01-09-2012, 01:34 PM
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Im a huge fan of his Giants Causeway you have been touting. His debut was giant, Baffert or not I would have talked about him. He ran the other speed into the ground and just kept going.
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01-09-2012, 01:51 PM
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That wasn't his debut. That was his second start.
But yeah, a Baffert trained son of Giant's Causeway who cost about a million dollars as a yearling and broke his maiden like that ... why am I not surprised you like him.
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01-09-2012, 06:12 PM
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I was talking about Secret Circle....
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