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Old 05-25-2011, 10:19 AM
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Paulick with Kegasus Ad Agency:
http://www.paulickreport.com/feature...ns-of-kegasus/

Pull the Pocket blog on Positioning of racing from advertising standpoint:
http://pullthepocket.blogspot.com/20...ng-racing.html
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Old 05-25-2011, 01:09 PM
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Absolutely brilliant analysis on the Positioning Racing article. Play up the intelectual challenge and subsequent pride in picking a winner unlike the mindless pulling of a lever or punching of buttons. This was a great piece.
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Old 05-25-2011, 01:24 PM
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Absolutely brilliant analysis on the Positioning Racing article. Play up the intelectual challenge and subsequent pride in picking a winner unlike the mindless pulling of a lever or punching of buttons. This was a great piece.
Ya that was good. . . I made some of the same points on the TDN blog a while ago.
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Old 05-25-2011, 01:34 PM
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How true is this statement, racing still acts like it is 1965.

"n another piece of fine marketing writing, the authors wrote, "Success often leads to arrogance, and arrogance to failure." Racing was once successful; people flocked to the track by the millions to watch and bet racing. But it was built on a house of cards. Patrons were not there because they loved us or that we were doing everything right, they were there because there was nowhere else to go. We were a monopoly and we lived the high life that often comes with being one, and that did breed arrogance. Because of this, I believe we have erroneously decided that racing's loss of market share is not our problem, but the problem of the general public, for not seeing us like they used to. The reality is that they never saw us like we think they did. And that is our problem, not our customers'."
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Old 05-25-2011, 03:10 PM
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The campaigns were controversial and edgy, which, of course meant they were widely criticized in the stodgy world of Thoroughbred racing.

This is good stuff!
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Old 05-25-2011, 09:50 PM
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Absolutely brilliant analysis on the Positioning Racing article. Play up the intelectual challenge and subsequent pride in picking a winner unlike the mindless pulling of a lever or punching of buttons. This was a great piece.
Exactly. The challenge is to solve the puzzle, specially with multi-race wagers. It needs to communicated as an analytical contest, with financial rewards.
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Old 05-25-2011, 10:12 PM
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Until horse racing accepts what it is, it's not going to change. Gamblers know what drives the sport, but you'd never know that if you watched the NBC telecast of the Preakness this past weekend.
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Old 05-25-2011, 10:36 PM
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Thats old school.....its not just gamblers. What is the perception of gamblers? Its an analytical game which involves money. And this doesnt include people who could be fans based on the love of amazing animals. You want to be right just as much as you want to win money...at least I do. BTW, I agree with your point about what drives the sport, my comments are regarding the marketing of the sport. Marketing it as a lottery does not work. What I have experienced is new people enter into the sport, dont understand how to analyze a race and lose money, and in turn stop supporting racing. That is what you get when you market gambling to people who have no idea how to solve the puzzle.
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Old 05-25-2011, 11:18 PM
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I agree. Teaching people how to solve the puzzle would be a lot better than giving them fluff pieces about trainers. Showing people how to handicap a race and then in turn showing them the reward for picking the winner would do wonders.

Unfortunately that doesn't happen now and it probably won't ever.
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Old 05-25-2011, 11:22 PM
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How does Churchill Downs get 38,000 plus people on a saturday night with no significant stake race?

Whatever they did, it worked. Why can't this be mimicked?
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