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Old 09-06-2006, 10:43 AM
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It's Official: Denman to Call 2006 Breeders' Cup
Date Posted: 9/6/2006 11:08:29 AM
Last Updated: 9/6/2006 11:08:29 AM

Edited press release
Trevor Denman has joined the ESPN announcer team for coverage of the 2006 Breeders' Cup World Championships, ESPN said Sept. 6.

For the first time in the event's 23-year history, the Breeders' Cup will be televised on ESPN, with coverage on many other ESPN platforms, Nov. 4 (noon-7 p.m. EST) from Churchill Downs in Louisville, Ky.

Denman, a fixture on the Southern California circuit, has been calling races at Del Mar since 1984. He began calling races in his native South Africa in 1971.

"Trevor is second to none among the world's race callers," Norby Williamson, executive vice president of studio and remote production for ESPN, said in a statement. "We are extremely pleased to have him in such an important role on our Breeders' Cup coverage."

Denman will work with hosts Chris Fowler and Kenny Mayne, analysts Jerry Bailey and Randy Moss, as well as reporters Hank Goldberg, Jeannine Edwards, Joe Tessitore, and others.

Tom Durkin has called every Breeders' Cup on NBC since the event's inception in 1984.

The Breeders' Cup, Thoroughbred racing's year-end championships consisting of eight races and $20 million in purses, caps the annual racing season with the richest races in North America on dirt and turf.
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Old 09-06-2006, 10:49 AM
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Should have gotten Dooley, while he is a great fit for the 'type' of person at Arlington, he steps up his game for Arlington's bigger race calls.

Denman just doesn't do it for me, not exciting enough....I am all about the serious voice influxation and callers getting pumped up, like Stauffer and Dooley
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Old 09-06-2006, 10:57 AM
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Luke gets shafted again.
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Old 09-06-2006, 11:24 AM
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Luke gets shafted again.
Agreed.. Luke is 100x better and easier to listen to than Denman.
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Old 09-06-2006, 11:28 AM
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I like Denman as well. Fractional times mean nothing to me while watching a race. Its not as if I can change my bet after seeing to fast or too slow of a quarter or half. And there have been many times I have bet horses who blaze the way very quickly and still hang on, and vice versa get away with easy fractions yet still quit. Durkin is good but I am kind of sick of him calling BC's. Time for a change.
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Old 09-06-2006, 02:40 PM
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I like Denman as well. Fractional times mean nothing to me while watching a race. Its not as if I can change my bet after seeing to fast or too slow of a quarter or half. And there have been many times I have bet horses who blaze the way very quickly and still hang on, and vice versa get away with easy fractions yet still quit. Durkin is good but I am kind of sick of him calling BC's. Time for a change.
I agree, and I like the way Trevor describes what the horses are doing, if you couldn't watch the race on TV you could still feel the excitement in Trevor's calls. He is also a very astute horseman and picks up on a lot of action in the midrace jockeying. I always wanted NBC to let him do more than an analyst spot on the Breeders Cup races. I can hardly wait to hear him say '' And LAVA MAN is moooving like a winner'' in deep stretch!!!! ( or Bernardini)
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Old 09-06-2006, 11:31 AM
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Agreed.. Luke is 100x better and easier to listen to than Denman.
WHo isn't?
Every caller alive uses fractional times in the call except Trevor.
The reason he doesnt do it is because he doesnt have to move teh binocs and check for the fractions and announce them.
real pros do this and then have to reset the cadence of the call after training the binocs back on the field.
Denman never posessed the skill to do this.
By not having to give fractions he never has his cadence interrupted and can use those same tired clapped out phrases that were great before we heard them one thousand times.
Heres an example. On Monday a baffert maiden had run away from the field and the camera had him on isolation. Now most everyone who bet that race was at home or at a simulcast, not at the track. Instead of continuing his call and telling everyone who had moved into 2nd and 3rd for the exacta and tri, he did that tired old "they'd have to sprout wings to catch so and so" and stopped his call.
Gee thanks a lot Trevor, there are only about a zillion folks who wanna know who is 2nd and 3rd(you couldnt see it on teh screen) and you are busy with a self serving tired old showoff phrase like that. No thanks. Most guys wanna hear the fractions and whose actually running where in the race.
I'm sure Luke and Durkin and Dooley could make up some phrases of their own like that if they didn't have to be "bothered" with "tiny" things like what the fractions are and whose actually running in 2nd and 3rd.
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WHo isn't?
Every caller alive uses fractional times in the call except Trevor.
The reason he doesnt do it is because he doesnt have to move teh binocs and check for the fractions and announce them.
real pros do this and then have to reset the cadence of the call after training the binocs back on the field.
Denman never posessed the skill to do this.
By not having to give fractions he never has his cadence interrupted and can use those same tired clapped out phrases that were great before we heard them one thousand times.
Heres an example. On Monday a baffert maiden had run away from the field and the camera had him on isolation. Now most everyone who bet that race was at home or at a simulcast, not at the track. Instead of continuing his call and telling everyone who had moved into 2nd and 3rd for the exacta and tri, he did that tired old "they'd have to sprout wings to catch so and so" and stopped his call.

Gee thanks a lot Trevor, there are only about a zillion folks who wanna know who is 2nd and 3rd(you couldnt see it on teh screen) and you are busy with a self serving tired old showoff phrase like that. No thanks. Most guys wanna hear the fractions and whose actually running where in the race.
I'm sure Luke and Durkin and Dooley could make up some phrases of their own like that if they didn't have to be "bothered" with "tiny" things like what the fractions are and whose actually running in 2nd and 3rd.

I'm a big Luke fan and like Dooley a lot too. Trevor is ok, but he's worn a bit thin.

Luke is the best I think at setting up a race early. He's not as good as Durkin late in a race but I don't think any are.
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Agreed.. Luke is 100x better and easier to listen to than Denman.
att thah wiiiiyahhhhh...i know denman has a place in your hart joe..
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Old 09-06-2006, 06:34 PM
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att thah wiiiiyahhhhh...i know denman has a place in your hart joe..
VERY clowse.. And they're all away to a PUHFECT stott..
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Old 09-06-2006, 10:59 AM
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Should have gotten Dooley, while he is a great fit for the 'type' of person at Arlington, he steps up his game for Arlington's bigger race calls.

Denman just doesn't do it for me, not exciting enough....I am all about the serious voice influxation and callers getting pumped up, like Stauffer and Dooley
I agree 100%. And "they're going very fast" is not sufficient for a big race. Fractional calls are still nice, even though the time is posted on the screen its often very small and cant be read. Voice inflections after a wicked half mile help set the stage for the viewers to expect the closers to come home strong.
Dooley has the voice and passion and skills to be the very best when Durkin ever retires. Hes the most talented young caller in the game by a landslide.
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Old 09-06-2006, 11:07 AM
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I agree 100%. And "they're going very fast" is not sufficient for a big race. Fractional calls are still nice, even though the time is posted on the screen its often very small and cant be read. Voice inflections after a wicked half mile help set the stage for the viewers to expect the closers to come home strong.
Dooley has the voice and passion and skills to be the very best when Durkin ever retires. Hes the most talented young caller in the game by a landslide.
I think Denman is the best there is. I could care less about fractional times. I can see if they are going fast or not. Denman will actually point out a horse and would tell you to watch for the horse getting ready to make his move. He can see things develop better than anyone. Durkin is old and he cant even call the right horses name. Dooley is good but not as good as Denman.
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It's Official: Denman to Call 2006 Breeders' Cup
Date Posted: 9/6/2006 11:08:29 AM
Last Updated: 9/6/2006 11:08:29 AM

Edited press release
Trevor Denman has joined the ESPN announcer team for coverage of the 2006 Breeders' Cup World Championships, ESPN said Sept. 6.

For the first time in the event's 23-year history, the Breeders' Cup will be televised on ESPN, with coverage on many other ESPN platforms, Nov. 4 (noon-7 p.m. EST) from Churchill Downs in Louisville, Ky.

Denman, a fixture on the Southern California circuit, has been calling races at Del Mar since 1984. He began calling races in his native South Africa in 1971.

"Trevor is second to none among the world's race callers," Norby Williamson, executive vice president of studio and remote production for ESPN, said in a statement. "We are extremely pleased to have him in such an important role on our Breeders' Cup coverage."

Denman will work with hosts Chris Fowler and Kenny Mayne, analysts Jerry Bailey and Randy Moss, as well as reporters Hank Goldberg, Jeannine Edwards, Joe Tessitore, and others.

Tom Durkin has called every Breeders' Cup on NBC since the event's inception in 1984.

The Breeders' Cup, Thoroughbred racing's year-end championships consisting of eight races and $20 million in purses, caps the annual racing season with the richest races in North America on dirt and turf.
He beacme 2-5 to be the caller once Durkin was out...I mean, who else would they have gotten?

Durkin has the classiest voice and great energy and prestige for getting people on the edge of there seats in the stretch run of a race - yet he is not a great technical race caller - as opposed to Denman, who is the best technical caller of all time as far as understanding the pace and which horses are the likely threats to win on the far turn, but his foreign voice gets annoying at times....

The only probelm is that there is no other reknwoned race caller in the country who is better than those two - so I figured it could only be Trevor once Durkin was out....
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