If he wins - will they put him in the Hall of Fame?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

http://www.drf.com/news/keeneland-je...-race-comeback

[my miss storm cat]

No but he might the 2013 "Beefcake" calendar.

[pointman]

His credentials are just as good if not better than Borel's, hell he won a triple crown, isn't that enough to get in?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

At least Borel has delivered several Hall of Fame worthy rides in big races. Winning an Arkansas Derby on 100/1+ Rockamundo and a Gr 1 in the Foster on the beyond impossible Seek Gold among others - not to mention his incredible record in the Ky Derby.

Alex Solis has made an entire career out of being about the 5th-to-12th best rider in the room on the So. Cal circuit. Unlike Jorge Chavez, he's never won a KY Derby - unlike Jorge Chavez - he's never won an eclipse for outstanding jockey.

How big of a joke is it that Alex Solis almost got in last year ... and Ghostzapper (unarguably the best horse in the last 12 to 15 years - and unquestionably the best horse Frankel ever trained) didn't even make the 'nomination to vote on' cut?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

At least Borel has delivered several Hall of Fame worthy rides in big races. Winning an Arkansas Derby on 100/1+ Rockamundo and a Gr 1 in the Foster on the beyond impossible Seek Gold among others - not to mention his incredible record in the Ky Derby.

Alex Solis has made an entire career out of being about the 5th-to-12th best rider in the room on the So. Cal circuit. Unlike Jorge Chavez, he's never won a KY Derby - unlike Jorge Chavez - he's never won an eclipse for outstanding jockey.

How big of a joke is it that Alex Solis almost got in last year ... and Ghostzapper (unarguably the best horse in the last 12 to 15 years - and unquestionably the best horse Frankel ever trained) didn't even make the 'nomination to vote on' cut?

This is pretty solid trolling Shelby, so I'll bite.

Solis has racked up over $220 million in purses by being the 5th-12th best rider in So Cal? I laughed.

Solis missed winning the '97 Derby by a pimple. He's won pretty much every big race here (except for the Derby 'sup Stewart Elliot) and a Dubai World Cup.

So what if Borel only trails him by a hundred million or so in purses for his career, he won the Arkansas Derby on a longshot, so let's vote him in.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Solis has racked up over $220 million in purses by being the 5th-12th best rider in So Cal? I laughed.

Current Hall of Famers - from the So. Cal jockey colony who accomplished more than Alex Solis while riding many years against him:

Kent Desormeaux, Gary Stevens, Eddie Delahousse, Chris McCarron, Pincay Jr. (even as old man he was much better) - Mike Smith (even as a wash up - he's accomplished more than Solis since he's moved out there)

Non Hall of Famers - from the So. Cal room - who are better than Alex Solis:

Pat Valenzula, Garret Gomez, Joel Rosario, Victor Espinoza, Rafeal Bejarano, Corey Nakatani - all unquestionably better.

Hell, Julie Krone was doing better than him when she went out there.


I know it might seem I have a prejudice against Solis for being a below takeout ROI guy for his entire career - he was always massively overrated... but he sure did have a nice personality and kept in great barns.

It's not like I'm a fan of Jorge Chavez - but he was a better jockey than Solis day-to-day. He won the sports biggest event. And he won the biggest honor a rider can get (eclipse award for outstanding jockey that year) - if Solis is deserving - why not Chavez?

If it was up to me ... there would be about five jockeys in the Hall of Fame total.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

This is pretty solid trolling Shelby, so I'll bite.

Solis has racked up over $220 million in purses by being the 5th-12th best rider in So Cal? I laughed.

Solis missed winning the '97 Derby by a pimple. He's won pretty much every big race here (except for the Derby 'sup Stewart Elliot) and a Dubai World Cup.

So what if Borel only trails him by a hundred million or so in purses for his career, he won the Arkansas Derby on a longshot, so let's vote him in.

In all fairness to Dougie, his entire post was ridiculous, not just what you pointed out.