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Old 03-29-2011, 07:16 AM
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KENTUCKY DERBY

1 Uncle Mo (Todd Pletcher/John Velazquez)
2 Dialed In (Nick Zito/Julien Leparoux)
3 Archarcharch (William 'Jinks' Fires/Jon Court)
4 Comma to the Top (Peter Miller/Pat Valenzuela)
5 Pants On Fire (Kelly Breen/Rosie Napravnik)
6 Midnight Interlude (Bob Baffert/Victor Espinoza)
7 Soldat (Kiaran McLaughlin/Alan Garcia)
8 Brilliant Speed (Tom Albertrani/Joel Rosario)
9 Master of Hounds (Aidan O'Brien/Garrett Gomez)
10 Nehro (Steve Asmussen/Corey Nakatani)

11 Twice the Appeal (Jeff Bonde/Calvin Borel)
12 Mucho Macho Man (Kathy Ritvo/Rajiv Maragh)
13 Decisive Moment (Juan Arias/Kerwin Clark)
14 Animal Kingdom (H. Graham Motion/Robby Albarado)
15 Stay Thirsty (Todd Pletcher/Ramon Dominguez)
16 Santiva (Eddie Kenneally/Shaun Bridgmohan)
17 Watch Me Go (Kathleen O'Connell/Rafael Bejarano)
18 Shackleford (Dale Romans/Jesus Castanon)
19 Twinspired (Mike Maker/Mike Smith)
20 Derby Kitten (Mike Maker)
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21 Sway Away (Jeff Bonde)



PREAKNESS

Dance City
Astrology
Flashpoint
Derby Kitten



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Old 03-29-2011, 08:46 AM
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Joe's Blazing Aaron is possible for the Bluegrass.
He is a new addition to the Mike Maker barn!
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Old 03-29-2011, 08:46 AM
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I love the FL Derby this weekend. Lots of ways to play
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Old 03-29-2011, 09:25 AM
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BLUE GRASS

Crimson China
Santiva
Willcox Inn
Monzon
Joe's Blazing Aaron


Wow - this one is shaping up to be a Dandy!

Why is the Blue Grass Stakes still a Grade 1?
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Old 03-29-2011, 09:39 AM
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Wow - this one is shaping up to be a Dandy!

Why is the Blue Grass Stakes still a Grade 1?
I remember thinking synthetic surfaces would be good for racing. I'll go ahead and file that one under "wrong".

(If some of you could resist the temptation to post the obvious here, that would be great. No one really gets points for hitting softballs out of the park.)
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Old 03-29-2011, 09:40 AM
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Why are any of them Grade 1's?
They are all preps for the Kentucky Derby, the real Grade 1.
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Old 03-29-2011, 09:41 AM
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Florida Derby is actually the first one I'm interested in so far. Several horses in that one that could move up.
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Old 03-29-2011, 09:43 AM
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The thing about the Blue Grass is that it's unlikley to tell us anything about Santiva. If he goes to the Derby, he'll be a complete wild card.
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Old 03-29-2011, 10:10 AM
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The thing about the Blue Grass is that it's unlikley to tell us anything about Santiva. If he goes to the Derby, he'll be a complete wild card.
More importantly, how amazing is Tom Walters, he always has one horse in training, and they are almost always a real good horse. There was an article about him somewhere that was good.
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Old 03-29-2011, 10:33 AM
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The thing about the Blue Grass is that it's unlikley to tell us anything about Santiva. If he goes to the Derby, he'll be a complete wild card.
He's not even close to a " complete wild card. "

He's slow.
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Old 03-29-2011, 10:52 AM
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He's not even close to a " complete wild card. "

He's slow.
I keep forgetting that slow horses are banned by law from hitting the board in the Derby.

By the way, this "slow" horse improved his top Beyer by 13 points in his sophomore debut, and has a graded two-turn win over the CD surface.
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Old 03-29-2011, 11:21 AM
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He's not even close to a " complete wild card. "

He's slow.
I'll disagree with you completely on this. IMO he was slow as a 2 year old, but his return race was very good while wide the entire race and they are using the Blue Grass as a final tightner, ala Street Sense and he will run a big race in the Derby. 6pt top (TG) in his return race signals a very healthy horse (maybe almost too healthy) and if he pairs that in the Blue Grass he will be a great bet in the Derby.

All that and because I keyed him up and down in Future pool exactas.
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Old 03-29-2011, 01:51 PM
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Why is the Blue Grass Stakes still a Grade 1?
Keeneland.
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Old 03-29-2011, 05:57 PM
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BLUE GRASS

Crimson China
Santiva
Willcox Inn
Monzon
Joe's Blazing Aaron

Queen'splatekitten (Possible)
Data Link (Possible)
King Congie (Possible)

Swift Warrior to the Blue Grass
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Old 04-04-2011, 11:05 AM
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WOOD MEMORIAL

Uncle Mo
Norman Asbjornson
Duca
Isn’t He Perfect
Toby's Corner (IL Derby but most likely here)

Full of Scoundrels (Possible)
Son of Posse (Possible)
Arthur's Tale (Possible)
Preachintothedevil (Possible)
Starship Caesar (Possible)

Rattlesnake Bridge (Jerome)



SANTA ANITA DERBY

Premier Pegasus
Comma to the Top
Silver Medallion
Anthony's Cross
Bench Points
Indian Winter
Mr. Commons
Offlee Wild Boys
Celestic Night
Quail Hill
Jaycito
Surrey Star (Possible)



ILLINOIS DERBY

Joe Vann
Lagoon of Diamonds
Smarter Than Ever
Sour
Southern Sculptor
Dance City
Economic Summit
The Fed Eased (Bay Shore)
Watch Me Go (Arkansas Derby)
Toby's Corner (Wood)



ARKANSAS DERBY

Archarcharch
Bretheren
Astrology
Nehro
The Factor
Caleb's Posse
Sway Away
Alternation
J P's Gusto
J W Blue
Elite Alex

Truman's Commander (Possible)



BLUE GRASS

Data Link
Crimson China
Santiva
Willcox Inn
Monzon
Jakesam
Joe's Blazing Aaron
Queen'splatekitten
King Congie (Lexington)
Swift Warrior
Powhattan County



LEXINGTON

King Congie (Blue Grass)
Twinspired



JEROME

Rattlesnake Bridge (Wood)
Cal Nation
Dominus (Derby Trial)



DERBY TRIAL

Dominus (Jerome)
Travelin Man



KENTUCKY DERBY

Pants On Fire
Twice the Appeal
Mucho Macho Man
Decisive Moment
Dialed In
Shackleford
Soldat
To Honor and Serve
Master of Hounds (Possible)
Animal Kingdom (Possible)
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Old 04-04-2011, 12:51 PM
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C'mon Sour!!!
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Will this the year the Blue Grass mercifully loses its GI status?
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Old 04-04-2011, 01:04 PM
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Will this the year the Blue Grass mercifully loses its GI status?
They'll never do it...After yesterday, maybe the Florida Derby should as well.
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Old 04-04-2011, 01:12 PM
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I can't remember what turf writer suggested in a column/article last year that only dirt graded earnings should count for Derby entrance, but I'm all for it. Then again, a gang of money was plowed into Stately Victor last year, which isn't entirely a bad thing.
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Old 04-04-2011, 12:56 PM
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ILLINOIS DERBY

Joe Vann
Lagoon of Diamonds
Smarter Than Ever
Sour
Southern Sculptor
Dance City
Economic Summit
The Fed Eased (Bay Shore)
Watch Me Go (Arkansas Derby)
Toby's Corner (Wood)

Seriously....? Shouldn't the Illinois Derby either lose its graded status, or be moved to Arlington during the summer or...something?

I can't believe anyone pointing to the SA Derby or AK derby didn't think twice about shipping here for this spot. Even Anthony's Cross (didn't Harty win it last year with the legendary American Lion)?
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