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Old 03-05-2011, 08:33 PM
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Default Random thoughts about the handicap division

BC Classsic run-backs:

Haynesfield 2nd to 35/1 shot Jersey Town in Cigar Mile

Musket Man 8th beaten many behind Jersey Town at 7/2 in Cigar Mile

First Dude 4th at 4/5 odds behind Tackleberry in Sunshine's Million Classic. 6th at 9/2 odds in Big Cap

Fly Down 5th at 5/2 odds behind Giant Oak in the Donn.

Etched 14th at 14/1 odds on the Tapeta

2-year-old Uncle Mo ran 3 points slower - but with wind factored in - Ragozin had him clearly faster than Blame and Zenyatta. Suddenly, that's starting to seem a tad bit less amazing.



As for more recent races...

Nice pedigree:


Nice N1X Alw horse:


Nice win at Fresno:


Alydar might have been able to suck up for 8th.

And finally - to refresh - Giant Oak won the Donn and there are people who believe Tackleberry is the best horse in America.
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Old 03-05-2011, 08:46 PM
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You are wrong about the Uncle Mo thing seeming less impressive.
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Old 03-05-2011, 08:50 PM
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You are wrong about the Uncle Mo thing seeming less impressive.
Not really. I went with the word amazing instead of impressive - but if the BC Classic form held up better - it would make Uncle Mo's achievement look more amazing/impressive.

You only had two two-turn dirt routes that day. By comparison - the BC Juvie was insanely fast and the BC Classic was very slow.
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Old 03-05-2011, 08:53 PM
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Horses like Stay Thirsty, JP's Gusto, and Riveting Reason all were beaten 15+ lengths with no excuses in the BC Juvie ... all of them have had some Graded Stakes success since.
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Old 03-05-2011, 09:33 PM
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I think all that matters is that Uncle Mo, in his third career start, ran every bit as well as or better than the Horse of the Year and Zenyatta (hehe) did over the same track. Seeing First Dude and do what First Dude does (not win) doesn't take anything away from Uncle Mo's feat. Now if Blame came back and lost to Tackleberry, you might have something.
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Old 03-06-2011, 01:04 AM
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I know this is a bit off topic but perhaps it is related... Today I was thinking it's a shame that Blame was retired. This would have been an incredible year for him to be in the Handicap division. He would have probably owned everything and could have put together quite an incredible Campaign, no?
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Old 03-07-2011, 11:28 AM
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Misremembered is now on top of the DRF Watchmaker List for this division based on his strong performance yesterday.

He may have won the Big Cap if Baffert wanted him to go 10 furlongs yesterday for his first start back off a long layoff.

Will Baffert take this horse to Dubai or point for the Hollywood Gold Cup or Stephen Foster?
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Old 03-07-2011, 11:38 AM
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Where is It's Tricky ranked among 3YO Fillies?
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Old 03-07-2011, 11:43 AM
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Where is It's Tricky ranked among 3YO Fillies?
11th or lower
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Old 03-07-2011, 11:40 AM
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Misremembered is now on top of the DRF Watchmaker List for this division based on his strong performance yesterday.

He may have won the Big Cap if Baffert wanted him to go 10 furlongs yesterday for his first start back off a long layoff.

Will Baffert take this horse to Dubai or point for the Hollywood Gold Cup or Stephen Foster?
Don't kid yourself, Jill's planning that horse's campaign.

That being said, he's not going to Dubai and I'm sure will become their handicap horse for CA races.
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Old 03-07-2011, 06:09 PM
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Don't kid yourself, Jill's planning that horse's campaign.

That being said, he's not going to Dubai and I'm sure will become their handicap horse for CA races.
I read he is coming East if he can stay sound. Ill try to find the article.
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Old 03-07-2011, 11:41 AM
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Misremembered is now on top of the DRF Watchmaker List for this division based on his strong performance yesterday.

He may have won the Big Cap if Baffert wanted him to go 10 furlongs yesterday for his first start back off a long layoff.

Will Baffert take this horse to Dubai or point for the Hollywood Gold Cup or Stephen Foster?
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Old 03-07-2011, 06:22 PM
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Will Baffert take this horse to Dubai or point for the Hollywood Gold Cup or Stephen Foster?
Baffert said today on ATR that Misremembered's going to Oaklawn next for the 'Cap (April 9). Then they'll plan from there.
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Old 03-07-2011, 06:48 PM
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Baffert said today on ATR that Misremembered's going to Oaklawn next for the 'Cap (April 9). Then they'll plan from there.
Oaklawn Handicap also figures to have Giant Oak, Winslow Homer and wait for it... Dublin!
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Old 03-07-2011, 07:09 PM
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Oaklawn Handicap also figures to have Giant Oak, Winslow Homer and wait for it... Dublin!
Nah, Dublin's not going to make it. He had colic or something recently and hasn't worked since early February. Lukas wants to run him in the Met Mile.
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Old 03-07-2011, 10:17 PM
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Oaklawn Handicap also figures to have Giant Oak, Winslow Homer and wait for it... Dublin!

Dublin is the champions champion, the horse of the people.
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