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Old 02-11-2011, 05:40 PM
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Why did I just assume he was off on a farm somewhere living the good life?


Penn National - February 11, 2011

Race 6 - 7:04 PM Exacta / Trifecta /2nd Half of Mid Double / Superfecta / Pick 4 (Races 6-7-8-9)
CLAIMING $4,000

Purse $12,000. (plus Up To 40% Pabf) For Four Year Olds And Upward Which Have Not Won Two Races Since August 11. Weight, 122 Lbs. Non-winners of a race at a mile or over since January 11 Allowed 3 Lbs. Claiming Price $4,000 (Races where entered for $3,500 or less not considered in eligibility). One Mile.
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Stable A/S Med Claim $ Jockey Wgt Trainer M/L

1 1 Devil Approved It (KY) 5/G L $4,000 K Santiago 1127 M L Rojas 4/1
SCR Awesome Rubiano (FL) -------------------------------------Scratched-------------------------------------
3 3 Tori Light (FL) 9/G L $4,000 M Chaves 119 R Servideo 30/1
4 4 Bleniem (ON) 7/G L $4,000 A Salgado 119 B L Kulp 8/1
5 5 Trippedoutofadream (FL) 6/G L $4,000 M Rispoli 1157 H T O'Hern 6/1
6 6 Rovic's Wealth (KY) 7/G L $4,000 W T Cloninger, Jr. 119 J D Crumley 6/1
7 7 Wave Me By (FL) 4/G L $4,000 W Corujo 1127 M A Miller 15/1
8 8 Ball Four (KY) 10/G L $4,000 W P Otero 119 D Balsamo 5/2
9 9 Marty's Hunch (PA) 7/G L $4,000 R Montanez 1145 B M Kravets 6/1
10 10 Balian (PA) 6/G L $4,000 D G Whitney 119 B M Kravets 15/1


Owners: 1 - Wanderers Stable; 3 - Zanek Stable; 4 - Brandon L. Kulp; 5 - Renpher Stable; 6 - Joseph E. Besecker; 7 - Rossi Racing; 8 - Bruce Golden Racing; 9 - Stevark Stable, Inc.; 10 - Rodney Chronister

Breeders: 1 - Liberation Farm & Fiona Craig; 3 - Robert Bakerman; 4 - Eugene Melnyk; 5 - Karen Silva; 6 - Robert Mondun & Vickie Mondun; 7 - Gilbert G. Campbell; 8 - B. D. Gibbs Farm, LLC & Grand Slam FarmLLC; 9 - Castle Rock Farm; 10 - Mer-Lyn Farms, LLC

http://www.pedigreequery.com/ball+four2


Owner: Bruce Golden Racing
Breeder: B. D. Gibbs Farm, LLC & Grand Slam Farm LLC
State Bred: KY
Winnings: 30 Starts: 8 - 3 - 4, $723,270

At 4: 2nd Kentucky Cup Classic (G2,9F)
At 5: Won Kentucky Cup Classic (G2,9F), Tejano Run S. (TP,9F); 2nd Fayette S. (G3,9F)
At 6: 2nd San Antonio H. (G2,9F)
At 7: Won Fayette S. (G3,9F); 3rd Native Diver H. (G3,9F)
At 8: Won Mervyn LeRoy H. (G2,8.5F)
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Old 02-11-2011, 05:45 PM
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You think he should be in for 5k?
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Old 02-11-2011, 05:52 PM
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He's Ball Four for God sake!

This is depressing.
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Old 02-11-2011, 05:59 PM
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Not sure I see anything wrong with the picture. 30 starts in 10 years is as light as it gets, horse still has some run in him apparently - he's installed as the m/l favorite....... What's the fuss?
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Old 02-11-2011, 06:08 PM
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Not sure I see anything wrong with the picture. 30 starts in 10 years is as light as it gets, horse still has some run in him apparently - he's installed as the m/l favorite....... What's the fuss?
The fuss is that 4k seems crazy for him and honestly some of my personal fuss is I'm having Mr. Umphrey flashbacks now.

He was in the Met Mile. The Met Mile!

Rabbit or not he deserved better than to die on a track somewhere in Pennsylvania running for a few thousand dollars.

I just get really sad when I see horses who had been at a certain level sink this far.

It's my problem and it's reality... it can be a brutal sport on many levels.

Doesn't mean I have to go silently into the night and accept these things without feeling like someone has a knife in my heart.

Okay that was a little overboard but you know what I mean.
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Old 02-11-2011, 06:35 PM
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The fuss is that 4k seems crazy for him and honestly some of my personal fuss is I'm having Mr. Umphrey flashbacks now.

He was in the Met Mile. The Met Mile!

Rabbit or not he deserved better than to die on a track somewhere in Pennsylvania running for a few thousand dollars.

I just get really sad when I see horses who had been at a certain level sink this far.

It's my problem and it's reality... it can be a brutal sport on many levels.

Doesn't mean I have to go silently into the night and accept these things without feeling like someone has a knife in my heart.

Okay that was a little overboard but you know what I mean.
He is a race horse he was bred to race not eat hay and oats and be a pet. Apparently he is still running ok if he wins he will make an owner 6k a trainer and jock 600 a piece and a vet will have to shot him up again. Basically he is a small business, because 6 years ago he was way faster changes everything? It's not like he is in a kill pen he is feed 14qts a day and cared for what do you desire for him a cabana in St Lucia?
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Old 02-11-2011, 06:47 PM
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what do you desire for him a cabana in St Lucia?
No.

This wuld be closer to where I am, so...

http://www.mauirealestate.net/maui_homes.html

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I know, Rudy... were not twins * . We don't need to have the same opinion.



* (Or are we?).

edit - He won.

http://www.equibase.com/static/chart...021111USA6.pdf

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Old 02-11-2011, 06:37 PM
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The fuss is that 4k seems crazy for him and honestly some of my personal fuss is I'm having Mr. Umphrey flashbacks now.

He was in the Met Mile. The Met Mile!

Rabbit or not he deserved better than to die on a track somewhere in Pennsylvania running for a few thousand dollars.

I just get really sad when I see horses who had been at a certain level sink this far.

It's my problem and it's reality... it can be a brutal sport on many levels.

Doesn't mean I have to go silently into the night and accept these things without feeling like someone has a knife in my heart.

Okay that was a little overboard but you know what I mean.
opt 65k claimers at Tampa bay ran for 22k purse today and none of those horses were for sale for under 30 40k?
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Old 02-11-2011, 09:36 PM
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opt 65k claimers at Tampa bay ran for 22k purse today and none of those horses were for sale for under 30 40k?
FL breds ran for 22k. The rest of them ran for 18k.
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Old 02-11-2011, 06:38 PM
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The fuss is that 4k seems crazy for him and honestly some of my personal fuss is I'm having Mr. Umphrey flashbacks now.

He was in the Met Mile. The Met Mile!

Rabbit or not he deserved better than to die on a track somewhere in Pennsylvania running for a few thousand dollars.

I just get really sad when I see horses who had been at a certain level sink this far.

It's my problem and it's reality... it can be a brutal sport on many levels.

Doesn't mean I have to go silently into the night and accept these things without feeling like someone has a knife in my heart.

Okay that was a little overboard but you know what I mean.
Sorry Gooey, I admire your sensibilities but I was simply reacting to the trhead title.

I don't see anything "wrong with this picture." He is a late developing, lightly raced 10 year old that is in at a level that anyone dreadfully concerned for his well being can easily obtain from the claiming box.

My guess is that he can/still wants to run (as evidenced by his m/l) and the owners feel he'd rather compete than rot away on the farm.

I'm sorry I don't read any more into it than that. Just my opinion.
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Old 02-11-2011, 09:58 PM
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The fuss is that 4k seems crazy for him and honestly some of my personal fuss is I'm having Mr. Umphrey flashbacks now.

He was in the Met Mile. The Met Mile!

Rabbit or not he deserved better than to die on a track somewhere in Pennsylvania running for a few thousand dollars.

I just get really sad when I see horses who had been at a certain level sink this far.

It's my problem and it's reality... it can be a brutal sport on many levels.

Doesn't mean I have to go silently into the night and accept these things without feeling like someone has a knife in my heart.

Okay that was a little overboard but you know what I mean.
although i can understand where you're coming from for the most part, i'm not so sure about this line.
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Old 02-12-2011, 11:16 AM
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although i can understand where you're coming from for the most part, i'm not so sure about this line.
Okay which part?

I loved Mr. Umphrey but there's no other reason he ran in the Met Mile... not that I can see.

He did his job there... he had run his own races but was used as the rabbit for both Silver Wagon and for Diamond Stripes.

As far as where and how he died... I still have the email from his trainer.

(God it's sad).

He died in February of last year, at Philly, running for a tag (7k).

So I'm not arguing here at all just asking what part of that line are you questioning?

Confused...
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