All this Hatin on Lava

[2MinsToPost]

Je wizz. Horse is racking up win after win. Makin all kinds of money for all kinds of people now and down the road. Look at all the hatin on here. Is it because this horse races on the West Coast?

How about just sayin what ya know is true, Lava is making a lot of people a lot of money. Props to Lava and Lava's connections.

Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost

Je wizz. Horse is racking up win after win. Makin all kinds of money for all kinds of people now and down the road. Look at all the hatin on here. Is it because this horse races on the West Coast?

How about just sayin what ya know is true, Lava is making a lot of people a lot of money. Props to Lava and Lava's connections.

Again, what is the point of your post? I don't see one other than stating the obvious and what everyone has conceded. WHo would say that he hasnt won a lot of money for people? But the issue has been raised about hwo he stacks up overall in HOY comparison and how he may fare if he leaves his home confines.
So lest get you on the record now, do you believe he will win a race if shipped away from Cali this fall? Put me down for an adamant no way in hell.
I've been watching Good Reward since he was a pup. I caught him once at a nice price in the Manhattan with a lucky good trip. But to beat him(on your home track no less when GR has the worst post and a style that doesnt suit that track) by a few lengths isn't exactly HOY type stuff. Good Reward didn't run in the WHitney, do you know why? Because he couldnt hit the board at ****ing Prairie Meadows, thats why. But he can run a strong 2nd to Lava Man? Umm, thats not hating Curt, thats called common sense and understanding what you are seeing.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Again, what is the point of your post? I don't see one other than stating the obvious and what everyone has conceded. WHo would say that he hasnt won a lot of money for people? But the issue has been raised about hwo he stacks up overall in HOY comparison and how he may fare if he leaves his home confines.
So lest get you on the record now, do you believe he will win a race if shipped away from Cali this fall? Put me down for an adamant no way in hell.
I've been watching Good Reward since he was a pup. I caught him once at a nice price in the Manhattan with a lucky good trip. But to beat him(on your home track no less when GR has the worst post and a style that doesnt suit that track) by a few lengths isn't exactly HOY type stuff. Good Reward didn't run in the WHitney, do you know why? Because he couldnt hit the board at ****ing Prairie Meadows, thats why. But he can run a strong 2nd to Lava Man? Umm, thats not hating Curt, thats called common sense and understanding what you are seeing.

Mike, what would make you appreciate Lava Man more? If he won by 20 lengths, would you be saying this? I'll take Lava Man over Flower Alley any day of the week. At least he's consistent (whether or not he wins by open lengths.)

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Mike, what would make you appreciate Lava Man more? If he won by 20 lengths, would you be saying this? I'll take Lava Man over Flower Alley any day of the week. At least he's consistent (whether or not he wins by open lengths.)

Cajun he has to beat Grade One horses. Beating Magnum and Ace Blue and Good Reward is simply not enough to impress me. I love the horse and his story. But I can promise you that if he ventures out of Cali that he will meeting much better than Good Reward.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Cajun he has to beat Grade One horses. Beating Magnum and Ace Blue and Good Reward is simply not enough to impress me. I love the horse and his story. But I can promise you that if he ventures out of Cali that he will meeting much better than Good Reward.

And just who is much better this year? Flower Alley? LOL

I'm having a hard time understanding how Perfect Drift, Giacomo etc. aren't grade one horses. Last time I checked, they were...

I'll be honest, I am more impressed with Bright One than Lava Man, but the point is... the horse has won and done everything asked of him. I will take my chances and say that he will hit the board in the Classic if he goes.

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

And just who is much better this year? Flower Alley? LOL

I'm having a hard time understanding how Perfect Drift, Giacomo etc. aren't grade one horses. Last time I checked, they were...

I'll be honest, I am more impressed with Bright One than Lava Man, but the point is... the horse has won and done everything asked of him. I will take my chances and say that he will hit the board in the Classic if he goes.

Oh please Cajun, talking about slanting something to make a point(or to attempt to). Do you really believe that Giacomo and Perfect Drift are grade one horses NOW!!!! That would be like beating Funny Cide and saying you beat a multiple grade one winner!!! Giacomo has one grade one win in his life that was over a year ago and when the hell was Perfect Drifts last grade one win? Neither horse is NOW what they were. So lemme ask you this, whos the best horse that you feel that Lava Man has beaten this year? I can't wait to hear this one!!!!!

[LARHAGE]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

And just who is much better this year? Flower Alley? LOL

I'm having a hard time understanding how Perfect Drift, Giacomo etc. aren't grade one horses. Last time I checked, they were...

I'll be honest, I am more impressed with Bright One than Lava Man, but the point is... the horse has won and done everything asked of him. I will take my chances and say that he will hit the board in the Classic if he goes.

Well let's reiterate here, who exactly has anyone beat this year? Flower Alley beating nobodies at Monmouth is evidently a big thing, Invasor was life and death to beat Sun King, who is not a Grade #1 winner, and Bernardini is running in restricted races at least now, so Lava Man needs to step it up to be deemed a worthy HOY candidate????!!!!!!!!! The horse has only won 4 Effing Grade 1's on both surfaces, is undefeated this year, and guess what? Anyone superior to him is more than welcome to come out and challenge him, why the hell should he have to travel, COME GET HIM!!!!

[1st_Saturday_in_May]

Whenever this horse beats good horses OUTSIDE of sunny California, I'll jump on the bandwagon. For right now, I'll pass...

Originally Posted by 1st_Saturday_in_May

Whenever this horse beats good horses OUTSIDE of sunny California, I'll jump on the bandwagon. For right now, I'll pass...

Agreed. But the connections are doing what I would do and what is right. Hes a gelding and his only job is to make money in the most expensive races they can run in at home against the easiest competition. Its the right thing to do. I appreciate that and how good a horse he is. But when I hear HOY stuff being bandied about he really should have to beat better horses. If hes as good as those who think he is say he is, then why would this be a problem? If hes truly that good he should be able to do that. Yet, I don't see any proclamations that he will accomplish this. Sure sounds strange to me, thats for sure. All these folks telling us he should be HOy yet none of em will predict victory if he leaves california. You can't have it both ways, hes either the best horse and a deserving HOY who can win outside of Cali or he isnt. So who wants in on how he does if he leaves cali? Anyone, Bueller? Anyone?