Desormeaux Ends 0 for 54 Skid

[Rupert Pupkin]

With his win aboard Hold That Thought in Monday's 4th race at Saratoga, Desormeax broke an 0 for 54 skid at the Spa. He had started the meet pretty hot but then he turned ice-cold and could not buy a win. Anyway, he finally broke the skid.

[timmgirvan]

Nice to know that's you, Richi! Hope things are good for you and yours! TMG

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

With his win aboard Hold That Thought in Monday's 4th race at Saratoga, Desormeax broke an 0 for 54 skid at the Spa. He had started the meet pretty hot but then he turned ice-cold and could not buy a win. Anyway, he finally broke the skid.

Hey bro...question for ya. I don't recall reading anything you may have said about his ride on Relaxed Gesture in the Sword Dancer. Anyways, what did you think of the ride and does a ride like that have any bearing on what type of wagering you may do on that jock in the future?

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by GPK

Hey bro...question for ya. I don't recall reading anything you may have said about his ride on Relaxed Gesture in the Sword Dancer. Anyways, what did you think of the ride and does a ride like that have any bearing on what type of wagering you may do on that jock in the future?

I actually thought he did the right thing on Relaxed Gesture. When Ramazutti challenged him on the clubhouse turn, I thought he was correct to take back and let Ramazutti go. You don't want to go head and head in a 1 1/2 mile race. He ended up getting into a little trouble on the far turn but it didn't make much diference. He didn't have any horse.

I'm not a big fan of Dersormeaux but if I like his horse I don't have a problem betting on him. There is no jockey that I won't bet on.

[Gander]

Hes hard for me to bet on and I'll tell you why. It doesnt seem to bother him when he delivers a bad ride or gets beat on a very low priced favorite on a ride that showed little effort. I've seen this guy after 2 races this year when he failed to be in contention with horses in the 3/5 range. He didnt look like he at all cared one bit. No thanks, I'd rather have a guy who is really trying hard out there than a pompass Southern California brat whos had everything handed to him.

[Gander]

Kent D should take a lesson from the way Prado rode Naughty NY'er yesterday. Edgar completely took the horse out of his element because he obviously read the drf before the race and knew the horse had to change his running style to win that race.

Kent D rode Relaxed Gesture as if there were horses in there with sprinting speed that were going to come 5-10 lengths back to the field.

[Gander]

Let me just add that I did not bet Relaxed Gesture to win at 3/5 but I did key him in many bets. I dont think he was going to win that race with any ride but as a bettor, I want a chance. I dont want to rip up my ticket halfway through the race because a guy who gets paid very well is lousy at his job.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Gander

Kent D should take a lesson from the way Prado rode Naughty NY'er yesterday. Edgar completely took the horse out of his element because he obviously read the drf before the race and knew the horse had to change his running style to win that race.

Kent D rode Relaxed Gesture as if there were horses in there with sprinting speed that were going to come 5-10 lengths back to the field.

There is no way in the world that Prado planned on doing what what he did in that race yesterday. It had nothing to do with preparation before the race. It was a split-second decision he made in the middle of the clubhouse turn. He actually took back at the beginning of the race. But he found himself six-wide in the middle of the clubhouse turn. He knew they were absolutely crawling up front so he decided to move early for two reasons. The first reason was because they were going so slow. The second reason was because he thought he would actually save some ground. He didn't want to stay six-wide all the way around the clubhouse turn. So he had two choices. He could have taken back and dropped back to last but he didn't want to do that becuase they were going so slow. So instead he decided to speed up to get a little better position and not go so wide. Unfortunately for him, when Chowder's First saw what Prado was doing, Chowder's First decided to move also and this forced Edgar to stay really wide.

It was just a bad situation for Edgar. He was in a really bad position and he was pretty much screwed no matter what. At that point, he was going to get a bad trip no matter what. He just had to decided which trip would be the lesser of the three evils. He made a split second decision to send the horse which he figured was a better choice than his other two options. He ended up getting a terrible trip, but his horse was so much the best that he still won fairly easily.

But as I said before, this was not something he planned on doing from pre-race preparation. He actually took back at the beginning of the race. If he had planned on being close to the lead, he would have sent the horse from the beginning. This was one of those cases where pre-race preparation went out the window due to the unexpected way the race unfolded.

[GPK]

Because I have the time to do this.....the odds on his mounts through those 54 races and his finishing position.

23.40 - 9th of 10
15.20 - 8th of 8
34.25 - 3rd of 10
22.40 - 6th of 12
7.50 - 4th of 10
3.40 - 6th of 9
4.60 - 8th of 10
4.60 - 3rd of 6
7.80 - 2nd of 9
3.60 - 3rd of 11
5.80 - 7th of 10
5.60 - 2nd of 6
21.30 - 5th of 11
0.70* - 5th of 8 (Relaxed Gesture)
32.00 - 7th of 12
2.85 - 5th of 10
9.20 - 3rd of 8
9.60 - 6th of 8
34.75 - 5th of 9
13.80 - 3rd of 10
9.80 - 5th of 9
5.90 - 2nd of 8
26.00 - 5th of 9
17.50 - 4th of 5
1.80* - 6th of 12 (Grand Opening)
14.80 - 6th of 9
15.20 - 7th of 9
1.35* - 2nd of 9 (Karakorum Knockout)
35.50 - 7th of 7
3.10 - 5th of 11
3.00 - 5th of 7
5.70 - 7th of 8
23.10 - 3rd of 9
28.00 - 6th of 12
43.75 - 7th of 9
5.80 - 3rd of 8
7.20 - 5th of 8
4.60 - 3rd of 9
2.85 - 4th of 9
4.60 - 2nd of 6
13.20 - 7th of 7
3.35 - 9th of 9
16.50 - 4th of 9
6.10 - 3rd of 5
31.50 - 6th of 12
5.40 - 3rd of 10
22.00 - 3rd of 9
1.55* - 3rd of 9 (Watchtower)
26.50 - 6th of 10
12.90 - 4th of 13
33.50 - 5th of 9
0.85* - 5th of 10 (Yankee Thunder)