Manny Robbed

SCUDSBROTHER · #1 07-08-2009, 04:40 AM

The 1st strike out was highly questionable. The 2nd strike out was on a pitch that wasn't close to being a strike. I hope he had it in for Manny, because if he really thought that was a strike, then he is one blind white guy. I don't know how these guys can live with themselves (when they see an obvious ball called a strike all night long on sportscenter etc.)

timmgirvan · #2 07-08-2009, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

The 1st strike out was highly questionable. The 2nd strike out was on a pitch that wasn't close to being a strike. I hope he had it in for Manny, because if he really thought that was a strike, then he is one blind white guy. I don't know how these guys can live with themselves (when they see an obvious ball called a strike all night long on sportscenter etc.)

that ump should be suspended

Gander · #3 07-08-2009, 07:58 AM

Hes not the first guy to get called out on a bad strike 3 call. Geez, what a baby. You have to wonder if he was mad that he couldnt help his team stretch their already 5-0 lead or if he wanted to improve his personal stats.
I understand his competitiveness, but throwing your gear in the air? All the things I hear about him (like how he refused to play more than 5 games in the minors to get ready) make me not question Theo Epstein's strong desire to get rid of him. Super player but as Jason Bay has proved, not irreplaceable.

gales0678 · #4 07-08-2009, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

The 1st strike out was highly questionable. The 2nd strike out was on a pitch that wasn't close to being a strike. I hope he had it in for Manny, because if he really thought that was a strike, then he is one blind white guy. I don't know how these guys can live with themselves (when they see an obvious ball called a strike all night long on sportscenter etc.)

join the club scuds , the umps have been burying the yanks all year

MaTH716 · #5 07-08-2009, 08:40 AM

I thought the first punch out was justified. If not, it was definitely too close of a pitch to take. The second one wasn't even close. But the way he got tossed was ridiculous, on both ends. The ump didn't see him toss the pad so he just assumed Manny threw it and tossed him anyway. It was a justified offense (if seen), but one of the base umps who saw it should have tossed him. As fas as Manny just being Manny, it was just stupid. I would have more respect if he would have stayed there and jawed with the ump and get tossed that way. Instead of just doing something stupid with a 5 run lead. It almost looks like he wanted to spend the rest of the night in the clubhouse. But,why not a 5-0 lead in Citi field these days is insurmountable. But it was still a stupid/busch move.

SCUDSBROTHER · #6 07-08-2009, 02:30 PM

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I would have more respect if he would have stayed there and jawed with the ump and get tossed that way. Instead of just doing something stupid with a 5 run lead. It almost looks like he wanted to spend the rest of the night in the clubhouse. But,why not a 5-0 lead in Citi field these days is insurmountable. But it was still a stupid/busch move.

He knew he was coming out of the game(Torre was gunna take him out soon.) That was a contributing factor. He takes pride in getting a hit when guys are in scoring position. He knows the strike zone quite well. He knew he got robbed of a chance to get a few more runs(and our 2 fatgirl allstars did team up to blow the 5 run lead in the 9th on Sunday in San Diego)

Gander · #7 07-08-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

He knew he was coming out of the game(Torre was gunna take him out soon.) That was a contributing factor. He takes pride in getting a hit when guys are in scoring position. He knows the strike zone quite well. He knew he got robbed of a chance to get a few more runs(and our 2 fatgirl allstars did team up to blow the 5 run lead in the 9th on Sunday in San Diego)

Manny is probably the best hitter ever with guys in scoring position, especially in close games that mean something. I watched him enough in Boston to know hes the 2nd best player in the game today (behind Albert Pujols) but also one of the most selfish whos ever played. He knew he was coming out and so did Torre, but theres no reason to act like that, especially in someone elses ballpark. Torre is a great coach but he doesnt treat Manny like the other players. I guess when you are that good, you have different sets of rules and different conduct expectations. But Albert Pujols apparently missed the memo that went out.

SCUDSBROTHER · #8 07-08-2009, 04:53 PM

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Manny is probably the best hitter ever with guys in scoring position, especially in close games that mean something. I watched him enough in Boston to know hes the 2nd best player in the game today (behind Albert Pujols) but also one of the most selfish whos ever played. He knew he was coming out and so did Torre, but theres no reason to act like that, especially in someone elses ballpark. Torre is a great coach but he doesnt treat Manny like the other players. I guess when you are that good, you have different sets of rules and different conduct expectations. But Albert Pujols apparently missed the memo that went out.

At this point, it's(Pujols versus Manny) like comparing apples to oranges. If it was Pujols, this pitch would never have been called a strike. This guy just wanted to be able to call Manny out (looking.) Now, there's a 5 run lead, and Manny is already coming out soon. So, you're saying for Manny to ignore the fact that the guy had it in for him? I prefer it the way it happened. Manny never did anything dangerous. He threw things up high in the air. Never threw anything at anyone. The important thing is that the pitch got looked at all night by baseball people around the country. They all know this guy called a ball(OBVIOUSLY) a 3rd strike. Maybe other umps will keep their bias under raps now(cuz this guy didn't get away with it.)

Crown@club · #9 07-08-2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

The 1st strike out was highly questionable. The 2nd strike out was on a pitch that wasn't close to being a strike. I hope he had it in for Manny, because if he really thought that was a strike, then he is one blind white guy. I don't know how these guys can live with themselves (when they see an obvious ball called a strike all night long on sportscenter etc.)

1st K - was definite strike.
2nd K - Was majorly ridiculous. Like watching a late 90's early 2000 game of the Atlanta Braves. Ball wasn't even close.