NBA Trades

[dalakhani]

Today's trades in the nibba have everything to do with the luxury tax/salary cap. Lets look at each one:

Bucks get Oberto, bruce bowen and kurt thomas for Richard Jefferson. Spurs got a steal right? They sure did. Such is the benefit when you don't make bad contracts and your salary structure is correct. The bucks save 15 million dollars off the cap for 2010-11 and after they release two of the players they traded for they will be 11 million under the cap.

The wizards deal was a lot more disheartening...especially if you are a fan. We give up the number 5 pick (harden? thabeet? tyreke?) for Randy foye and mike miller? Okay, i get it that we get to shed a couple of awful contracts but couldnt we have gotten something a little better than foye and miller? This was a luxury tax move pure and simple.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Today's trades in the nibba have everything to do with the luxury tax/salary cap. Lets look at each one:

Bucks get Oberto, bruce bowen and kurt thomas for Richard Jefferson. Spurs got a steal right? They sure did. Such is the benefit when you don't make bad contracts and your salary structure is correct. The bucks save 15 million dollars off the cap for 2010-11 and after they release two of the players they traded for they will be 11 million under the cap.

The wizards deal was a lot more disheartening...especially if you are a fan. We give up the number 5 pick (harden? thabeet? tyreke?) for Randy foye and mike miller? Okay, i get it that we get to shed a couple of awful contracts but couldnt we have gotten something a little better than foye and miller? This was a luxury tax move pure and simple.

The Bucks are doomed to forever suck. Jefferson makes the Spurs better. I dont think the Wizards trade was a salary dump considering that they are still over the lux tax. Not to mention that Harden doesnt fit on a team with Arenas and the other two are likely to be taken before 5 anyway.

pgardn is happy...


All involved for the Spurs will most likely retire.
Bucks release them, I dont think they try to play anywhere else.
Oberto bad heart. Bowen just old. Thomas same.
Hope they keep Bowen on staff after the Bucks release him.


Interesting stuff on the Wizards.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The Bucks are doomed to forever suck. Jefferson makes the Spurs better. I dont think the Wizards trade was a salary dump considering that they are still over the lux tax. Not to mention that Harden doesnt fit on a team with Arenas and the other two are likely to be taken before 5 anyway.

The wizards are still over the tax but every dollar counts. They save the tax plus the salary they would have to pay on the pick (3m +3m). Beyond that, Miller's salary comes off the books this year and although Etan's contract would have anyway, they no longer have to pay songaila and pecherov which will save them about 7 million next year. The pick will about even out with Foye's contract. So over two years they save about 10 million in salary and at least another 3 million in luxury tax.

Foye and Miller certainly make them better but i would think they could have gotten much more for that 5th pick besides a very average 6 4 combo guard and what amounts to a good expiring contract that can hit an open jumper.

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

The wizards are still over the tax but every dollar counts. They save the tax plus the salary they would have to pay on the pick (3m +3m). Beyond that, Miller's salary comes off the books this year and although Etan's contract would have anyway, they no longer have to pay songaila and pecherov which will save them about 7 million next year. The pick will about even out with Foye's contract. So over two years they save about 10 million in salary and at least another 3 million in luxury tax.

Foye and Miller certainly make them better but i would think they could have gotten much more for that 5th pick besides a very average 6 4 combo guard and what amounts to a good expiring contract that can hit an open jumper.

As long as Gilbert is there to kill any team defense played, the Wizards will play a brand of NBA ball best described as HORSE.

[King Glorious]

Having cap space and being Milwaukee is like having $10 million in the bank and can't find your atm card or remember your account number. Nobody wants to go there. Washington isn't much more desireable.

The question is would you rather have Foye or maybe Harden? Foye is no star player but is a proven NBA capable scorer. I'd take a bird in the hand always.

The Spurs once again showed why they are one of the best run franchises in all of sports.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

The question is would you rather have Foye or maybe Harden? Foye is no star player but is a proven NBA capable scorer. I'd take a bird in the hand always.
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Thats a good question. You would take a proven mediocrity for a player that could be any kind?

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Today's trades in the nibba have everything to do with the luxury tax/salary cap. Lets look at each one:

Bucks get Oberto, bruce bowen and kurt thomas for Richard Jefferson. Spurs got a steal right? They sure did. Such is the benefit when you don't make bad contracts and your salary structure is correct. The bucks save 15 million dollars off the cap for 2010-11 and after they release two of the players they traded for they will be 11 million under the cap.

The wizards deal was a lot more disheartening...especially if you are a fan. We give up the number 5 pick (harden? thabeet? tyreke?) for Randy foye and mike miller? Okay, i get it that we get to shed a couple of awful contracts but couldnt we have gotten something a little better than foye and miller? This was a luxury tax move pure and simple.

i was gonna ask what people thought about this trade. I know who miller is, but he's been bounced around a bunch of teams, and i knew foye was a decent young guy (in reality Songaila was the ONLY semi-proodcuer the wiz gave up), but the 5th pick was a bit over the top. Giving minny the 5-6 18th and 28th picks? are you F'ing kidding me

-bt-

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by -BT-

i was gonna ask what people thought about this trade. I know who miller is, but he's been bounced around a bunch of teams, and i knew foye was a decent young guy (in reality Songaila was the ONLY semi-proodcuer the wiz gave up), but the 5th pick was a bit over the top. Giving minny the 5-6 18th and 28th picks? are you F'ing kidding me

-bt-

Except that this is widely regarded as one of the weakest drafts in recent history. Behind Griffin there isn't a single guy that is solid bet to be an NBA All Star. There are a lot of projects and a lot of guys that will be solid role players but there are very few guys that you can build a franchise around.

I think it is a trade that makes sense for both sides. Washington is in the weak East and got guys that assure they will be a playoff team next year. Minnesota is in the much tougher west and had no chance of making the playoffs in the next couple years with those guys so need to luck into some draft picks that pan out and make them contenders again.

[Cannon Shell]

Supposedly Bowen will be released and re-sign with the Spurs as soon as he is able to.

[King Glorious]

This is why they are the Clippers. They are trading Zach Randolph for Quentin Richardson. Seriously.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

This is why they are the Clippers. They are trading Zach Randolph for Quentin Richardson. Seriously.

It is a good move unless you are playing fantasy NBA. Randolph is a cancer who has improved every team he has ever been on....by leaving. They just drafted Blake Griffin, did you really think they were keeping him? And do you really think that anyone is going to give up much for him? Richardsons $9 million dollar contract expires after this year which will give the Clips a lot of money next summer. Randolph is owed $33 million over the next 2 years and plays the same position as the recently selected number 1 pick in the draft. It is a rare good move by the Clips.