ABC sucks- somebody please post results and prices

[Thunder Gulch]

30 minutes after the race and never posted the prices. Now 45 minutes later and nothing on DRF or equibase.

This is inexcusable..

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

30 minutes after the race and never posted the prices. Now 45 minutes later and nothing on DRF or equibase.

This is inexcusable..

how do they NOT show the Manhattan?

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by ddthetide

how do they NOT show the Manhattan?

Why show the Manhattan when you can repeat Kenny and Chuck Woolley singing round robin Row Row Row Your Boat about 5 times?

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

Why show the Manhattan when you can repeat Kenny and Chuck Woolley singing round robin Row Row Row Your Boat about 5 times?

That was actually funny

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

That was actually funny

the first time they showed it on espn.

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by ddthetide

how do they NOT show the Manhattan?

Yeah, I was all set to watch the Manhattan online on twinspires when I saw that the signal was blocked and I had to watch it on ABC.

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

Yeah, I was all set to watch the Manhattan online on twinspires when I saw that the signal was blocked and I had to watch it on ABC.

i had xpressbet video up all day. watch the manhattan online.

[herkhorse]

4 $25.80 $9.30 $4.70
2 . $5.40 $3.60
7 . . $2.60

Results: 01 | 02 | 03 | 04 | 05 | 06 | 07 | 08 | 09 | 10 | 11 | ALL
Wager Type Winning Numbers Paid
$1.00 Exacta 4-2 $60.50
$1.00 Trifecta 4-2-7 $147.50
$0.10 Superfecta 4-2-7-6 $42.60
$1.00 Double 5/4 $76.25
$1.00 Pick-3 2/5/4 3 of 3 $1288.50
$1.00 Pick-4 4/2/5/4 4 of 4 $8542.50
$2.00 Pick-6 6/7/4/2/5/4 5 of 6 $2482.00
$2.00 Pick-6 6/7/4/2/5/4 6 of 6 $969345.

[Travis Stone]

I saw the payoffs on ABC?

[andrasi]

I was so pissed, youbet didnt carry the manhattan and unless I fell asleep our abc affiliate didnt carry it either. people who run racing are assholes, plain and simple. government appointees who no **** about racing and even less about players,

[jms62]

Would it be so ****ing difficult to give the Unofficial order of finish immediately?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

Would it be so ****ing difficult to give the Unofficial order of finish immediately?

abc probably operates under the assumption that everyone only cares about the winner. that would be false, but that's what happens when you have a network that is clueless about the sport it's covering, and knows nothing about what fans are looking for.
i dvr's the show, fastforwarded to the race-all in all, the best way to watch the race on espn/abc. you skip all the bs, especially bailey.

[slotdirt]

Did anybody ever show the Manhattan? That was embarassing.

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Did anybody ever show the Manhattan? That was embarassing.

xpressbet had All the races. i think abc showed a quick replay of the finish, just killing time.

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Did anybody ever show the Manhattan? That was embarassing.

TVG did.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Danzig

abc probably operates under the assumption that everyone only cares about the winner. that would be false, but that's what happens when you have a network that is clueless about the sport it's covering, and knows nothing about what fans are looking for.
i dvr's the show, fastforwarded to the race-all in all, the best way to watch the race on espn/abc. you skip all the bs, especially bailey.

You would think they would hire consultants that know the audience they have. Luckily and for no reason whatsoever I switched over to TVG just as the race was about to go off.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by Danzig

abc probably operates under the assumption that everyone only cares about the winner. that would be false, but that's what happens when you have a network that is clueless about the sport it's covering, and knows nothing about what fans are looking for.
i dvr's the show, fastforwarded to the race-all in all, the best way to watch the race on espn/abc. you skip all the bs, especially bailey.

I really never understand the knocking of ABC, NBC or anyones coverage of horse racing.

ESPN is ESPN, not ESPN OTB. ABC is ABC, and not ABC OTB.

They put horse racing on the air to entertain general audiences in addition to racing fans. General audiences could care less about who ran fourth, they want to know who just won the race.

The same argument applies to their camera angles. To a non-racing fan, the pan shot is BORING.

They correctly assume the majority of people who are serious bettors are not on their couch but at a track or an OTB. The majority of people watching horse racing on a day like the Belmont are 3x a year race watchers and they are watching to be entertained, not informed.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

I really never understand the knocking of ABC, NBC or anyones coverage of horse racing.

ESPN is ESPN, not ESPN OTB. ABC is ABC, and not ABC OTB.

They put horse racing on the air to entertain general audiences in addition to racing fans. General audiences could care less about who ran fourth, they want to know who just won the race.

The same argument applies to their camera angles. To a non-racing fan, the pan shot is BORING.

They correctly assume the majority of people who are serious bettors are not on their couch but at a track or an OTB. The majority of people watching horse racing on a day like the Belmont are 3x a year race watchers and they are watching to be entertained, not informed.

nope, not an otb-just a show that drags on far too long to show 2 1/2 minutes of racing. as for assuming most bettors are at an otb-plenty of people don't need to leave their house to bet. that's why i said i taped it to watch later, so i could fast forward thru countless minutes of filler-time they could spend showing races such as the manhattan. i'm not 'entertained' by their coverage at all-it's boring.
btw, why should a 'casual' fans opinion mean more than mine?

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

I really never understand the knocking of ABC, NBC or anyones coverage of horse racing.

ESPN is ESPN, not ESPN OTB. ABC is ABC, and not ABC OTB.

They put horse racing on the air to entertain general audiences in addition to racing fans. General audiences could care less about who ran fourth, they want to know who just won the race.

The same argument applies to their camera angles. To a non-racing fan, the pan shot is BORING.

They correctly assume the majority of people who are serious bettors are not on their couch but at a track or an OTB. The majority of people watching horse racing on a day like the Belmont are 3x a year race watchers and they are watching to be entertained, not informed.

when the 2 networks agree to cover the entire card including what are meaningless optional claiming and non winners of 1 races and don't carry the G1 before the belmont, thats pretty pathetic. They dropped the ball big time, and the kick in the nuts is that they aired from 5-7......................for 1 race, and the majority of the crap-o-la they aired was previously shown on the espn show, utterly pathetic

-bt-

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

I really never understand the knocking of ABC, NBC or anyones coverage of horse racing.

ESPN is ESPN, not ESPN OTB. ABC is ABC, and not ABC OTB.

They put horse racing on the air to entertain general audiences in addition to racing fans. General audiences could care less about who ran fourth, they want to know who just won the race.

The same argument applies to their camera angles. To a non-racing fan, the pan shot is BORING.

They correctly assume the majority of people who are serious bettors are not on their couch but at a track or an OTB. The majority of people watching horse racing on a day like the Belmont are 3x a year race watchers and they are watching to be entertained, not informed.

I think you're mostly correct.

I've made it my mission to try to convert people at the barn I ride at to become racing fans. I got three of them to watch all three legs of the Triple Crown and all were excited about it and were talking about it the next day. (Next step is to get them betting at Colonial )

I think the only complaint I heard was the showing of the same segment multiple times and not hearing enough (or seeing) the other horses/connections in the races.