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Old 04-10-2009, 07:26 PM
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Default Best way to talk to a friend about addiction?

One of my best friends since middle school started taking different prescription drugs (not prescribed to him) such as xanax, vicodin, and methadone. At first he would do it every once in awhile, but lately it's been an every day thing and has gotten so bad that I pretty much avoid all of his phone calls because all he ever has to ask is if I have money so he can get some type of pill.

He tops it off by being a no call no show to work and sure enough he gets fired, so he def. cannot support his habit now. My other friend and I have realized how bad he has gotten (whenever we see him now he looks like a mess) and noone else is stepping up to do anything so we are both kind of in the middle on what we should do. We both know something must be done or he is going to end up in jail or even worse OD cause he doesn't know when enough is enough.

Only reason I ask what you guys think I should do is because I don't want to take this to someone who knows him. I've thought about calling his mom and not letting her know who it is but just telling her that her son needs help. Bad idea?
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Old 04-10-2009, 07:33 PM
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One of my best friends since middle school started taking different prescription drugs (not prescribed to him) such as xanax, vicodin, and methadone. At first he would do it every once in awhile, but lately it's been an every day thing and has gotten so bad that I pretty much avoid all of his phone calls because all he ever has to ask is if I have money so he can get some type of pill.

He tops it off by being a no call no show to work and sure enough he gets fired, so he def. cannot support his habit now. My other friend and I have realized how bad he has gotten (whenever we see him now he looks like a mess) and noone else is stepping up to do anything so we are both kind of in the middle on what we should do. We both know something must be done or he is going to end up in jail or even worse OD cause he doesn't know when enough is enough.

Only reason I ask what you guys think I should do is because I don't want to take this to someone who knows him. I've thought about calling his mom and not letting her know who it is but just telling her that her son needs help. Bad idea?
Talk to him straight up and to the point. It wont help till he wants the help, but you owe it the friendship to be direct and firm.
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Old 04-10-2009, 09:05 PM
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i would bluntly tell him you're not able to give him funds to pay for his habit. but, til HE recognizes the problem and wants to change, nothing will get him to quit. i'd imagine his mother probably already realizes something is up. but there's really nothing you can do. he has to do it.
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Old 04-10-2009, 09:56 PM
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My best friend killed himself due to an addiction... I wish I would have said something to him when I had the chance....

I suggest trying to talk to him if you can and the sooner the better.
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Old 04-10-2009, 09:19 PM
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One of my best friends since middle school started taking different prescription drugs (not prescribed to him) such as xanax, vicodin, and methadone. At first he would do it every once in awhile, but lately it's been an every day thing and has gotten so bad that I pretty much avoid all of his phone calls because all he ever has to ask is if I have money so he can get some type of pill.

He tops it off by being a no call no show to work and sure enough he gets fired, so he def. cannot support his habit now. My other friend and I have realized how bad he has gotten (whenever we see him now he looks like a mess) and noone else is stepping up to do anything so we are both kind of in the middle on what we should do. We both know something must be done or he is going to end up in jail or even worse OD cause he doesn't know when enough is enough.

Only reason I ask what you guys think I should do is because I don't want to take this to someone who knows him. I've thought about calling his mom and not letting her know who it is but just telling her that her son needs help. Bad idea?
it's not your job. and you don't have the power anyway.

but be an honest example. don't tell his mom. tell him you're so worried about him you contemplated calling his mom.
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Old 04-10-2009, 10:06 PM
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Let him be. You can't help him until he hits bottom and asks for help. Don't enable him but he has no interest in your opinion of his habit or his mothers opinion either. The only thing he wants is another fix. Sad but true 99% of the time. As a matter of fact I can guarantee that if or when you try to help he lashes out at you, tells you that you dont know what you are talking about, that he has things under control and he didn't like that job anyway. Remember that people who are addicted dont think like the rest of us and their view of the world is far different than the reality of it.
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Old 04-10-2009, 10:27 PM
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If he is truly addicted he is rapidly moving toward the phase of his illness that is about avoiding the daily horrors of withdrawal. There are few things harder to watch in a loved one than full blown opioid or benzo withdrawal which can make DT's look like a picnic.

IMO you offer him an opportunity to competent help where other addicts have gotten treated successfully and then leave him alone until he loses enough of his life and the people who love him.

He will continue to use until he is ready to make a serious effort in recovery where he is willing to do anything to get what successful recovering addicts have......sobriety and a program. If you really want to know where to get help PM me and I'll recommend a solid place based on where you live.
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Old 04-10-2009, 10:28 PM
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Let him be. You can't help him until he hits bottom and asks for help. Don't enable him but he has no interest in your opinion of his habit or his mothers opinion either. The only thing he wants is another fix. Sad but true 100% of the time. As a matter of fact I can guarantee that if or when you try to help he lashes out at you, tells you that you dont know what you are talking about, that he has things under control and he didn't like that job anyway. Remember that people who are addicted dont think like the rest of us and their view of the world is far different than the reality of it.
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Old 04-11-2009, 05:46 PM
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Chuck said it best. Nothing in this world you say or do will make a difference right now. Until he hits bottom and is willing to admit being powerless over the pills and is ready for help, leave him alone.

You are welcome to PM me as well with any questions.
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Old 04-11-2009, 05:54 PM
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Tell him Charlie Weis is going on a hunger strike in protest of your buddies drug use.
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