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Old 03-03-2009, 07:53 PM
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Nopie is finally headed home! He got on the trailer earlier today and is on his way to California. American Horse Transport (great people and they gave me a really good price, ask for Julie if you need to move your horses - tell her Nopie sent you!) is bringing him in a 55' trailer with several other horses. Nopie is going to be delivered to the Steve Sherman barn at Golden Gate Fields on Friday. We were going to have him taken directly to GEVA but the transport rig is too big to make it down GEVA's driveway and the roads are pretty narrow with lots of turns just getting there. So instead, Nopie will spend a night where his racing career began and then get vanned to GEVA where he will rest for several months before he gets re-schooled and ready for life away from the track.

Now that Nopie is safe, I want to tell you a little of what went on behind the scenes. I originally called the owner/trainer of Nopie the day of his last race (Friday, February 20th) and told him that morning that I wanted to buy Nopie and retire him. This trainer, Gilbert W Ecoffey (he goes by "GW") asked me how much I was willing to pay for the horse. I told him I'd be happy to pay what he had paid for the horse (Nopie had just run at Turf Paradise for $3,500, wasn't claimed out of the race and he finished out of the money). GW told me he paid $3,500 for Nopie and maybe, just maybe he'd sell him to me AFTER the race for $3,500, if he wasn't claimed out of the race for $2,500. Now remember, I know Nopie's original trainer, Steve Sherman, and Bob Bone owned Nopie - Steve said that with the finish Nopie had at TP, Bob would have unloaded the horse for $1K-$1.5K just to get rid of a horse on his way down (Mr. Bone is in racing for the $$$, he cuts his losses quickly). Add on the fact that Nopie left California with bone chips in his ankle and he probably wasn't going to do well running without a long layoff or surgery. I mentioned the bone chips to GW and he said he knew all about them, knew about it when he got the horse in Arizona but Nopie was training well and he thought he was going to win that day. I could see there was no way to appeal to his love for the animal, he was in this for the money, the horse be damned. I scrambled to try to find someone with a Nebraska license to claim Nopie for me but couldn't pull it off before the race. I waited to see who, if anyone would claim him, and then I'd seriously negotiate after that.

Before the race is when Tom came into the picture. Tom offered to help any way he could and we were on the phone together waiting for the results to be posted (there was NO live video available anywhere to watch the race) when the quick results came up - Nopie wasn't in the top three, "that should help get the price down on him" Tom and I agreed. Then, when the results chart was posted, panic set in. Nopie stumbled out of the gate, was pulled up lame and vanned off... SH*T! I thought I was going to cry, Tom was on it in a flash - "Don't worry, I'll call the track and find out what happened". All I could think was, "I was too late, I should have offered him $4,000 and said *Don't Race Nopie*"... I felt like I had failed this horse with the amazing personality. Tom was back with me quickly and gave me the update, "He's still alive, looks like a torn suspensory, what do you want to do?" I told Tom I wanted him, as long as the injury wasn't so bad it would have been too much for the horse. Tom began the intricate maze of trying to get a horse from a track hundreds of miles and several states away from where he was. He spoke with the Racing Secretary, a Steward, the State Vet at the track and anyone else that could help him. He eventually spoke with the Assistant Racing Secretary, Wayne Anderson, who was friendly with GW. Wayne offered to help broker the deal and really smoothed the way to getting the deal done. I let Tom do the negotiating for me since it was his strength and he had developed relationships with folks at the track. We got Nopie for $1,000 from GW, a substantial savings over the original amount he had requested. I over-nighted a check for most of the amount to Wayne on Saturday and it arrived Monday, three days after Nopie's race.

The State Vet looked at Nopie and determined that Nopie had a complete tear of the suspensory ligament, it pulled completely free of the bone, even taking a chip of the bone off with it. The vet directed GW to put a gel cast on the leg and to give Nopie pain killers as needed. Nopie was left in GW's barn as Tom and I attempted to find transportation for the horse back to California. Wayne said he'd look in on the horse and make sure he was doing ok. We weren't able to get Nopie aboard the first couple of transports that came through town but we figured that was ok, he was resting and could use the recovery time before making the long journey home. We looked all over for rides and almost settled on shipping him first back to Arizona and then home because that looked to be the only way to get him out of Fonner Park, but even that was difficult to set up. We didn't feel comfortable leaving Nopie in GW's barn for an extended period of time, so on Wednesday Tom got another trainer at the track to move Nopie to his barn. This trainer, Cody Ungles, came highly recommended and he and Tom hit it off right from the start. Cody went to GW's barn to pick up Nopie and was dismayed at what he found. There were no wraps on Nopie's injured leg, he appeared to be in pain and he was very underweight - he looked and felt horrible. GW did not even give Nopie the slightest care. I was devastated and Tom was pissed beyond belief. At that moment we both knew we had to do something to insure that GW would never do this to another horse again, but first we had to get Nopie out of Nebraska. We had another vet come and look at Nopie, he gave him Bute for his pain and Cody wrapped up both of Nopie's front legs to make sure he had enough support. Cody fed Nopie and in a short time with care, medication, food and a little attention, Nopie started coming back around. After a day, Cody reported to Tom that Nopie was doing good and even commented that he was "a playful son of a gun". Nopie nickered at people when they walked by his stall, especially if they had food and was getting better. Tom found a ride for Nopie direct from Nebraska to California and that's where we're at today. Nopie will be back home later this week and I'll see him on Sunday, photos will follow shortly.

I wanted you all to know the real story of what went on to save Nopie, it was not an easy process. Tom and I made lots of phone calls and sent lots of e-mails and it was an emotional roller coaster as bad news followed good news - just when things seemed to be falling into place, something bad would happen. The care that Nopie received while in GW's barn was atrocious and is something that I can not condone. GW was named the Trainer of the Year in South Dakota last year and I find that hard to believe. I will be writing to the Racing Commission for the states of Nebraska and South Dakota to complain about the treatment that Nopie received. There was no excuse for not wrapping his injury or giving him pain medication - I sent a cashiers check for 75% of the purchase price (remainder to be paid upon receiving the horse), I gave the vet my billing address to cover his bills, agreed to pay GW an additional $200 for taking care of Nopie until we could get him out of Fonner Park - I did everything to show that I would take responsibility for this horse and he couldn't even provide basic care for Nopie. It's unacceptable and I don't think this man should make his living at the expense of the well being of horses. If you have found this story to be half as disturbing as I have, please help Tom and I do something about it. Call or write to Fonner Park, the State Racing Commission, animal rights groups, anyone who can do something that makes this guy realize that what he did isn't right and won't be tolerated. If you appreciate folks like me and Tom that want to care for horses when their racing career is over, donate to groups like GEVA, Old Friends, ReRun and others like them. This has been an amazing learning experience for me, and as challenging as it has been, I’d do it again (although there were times the past week I wondered why I did it), Nopie is worth it, I truly believe that this horse is worth it.
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Old 03-03-2009, 08:29 PM
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I'm so glad that it worked out !
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You know at first I want to say great story, yada,yada,yada.

But after thinking about it.......great story!, YADA, YADA, YADA!

Tom, you are the Man!
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:12 PM
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so glad nopie is still doing well, and that he has a friend in you dc!! can't wait to see pics of the guy. i wish him luck in his re-training.
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:23 PM
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You guys are great for doing all that you did, but that suspensory thing sounds worrisome. What's the prognosis for that? Will he need surgery to reattach the suspensory?
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Looking forward to seeing the pictures and the updates once he starts re-schooling.
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:38 PM
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Looking forward to seeing the pictures and the updates once he starts re-schooling.
I'll 2nd that!
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Old 03-03-2009, 10:40 PM
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There is no way someone who is charged with training and/or taking care of horses should treat an animal this way. But sore and hurt horses are run all around this country every day. If a trainer cant look a horse in the eye and do what is RIGHT, he needs to go into auto racing and get the hell out of horse racing. When it comes down to it, this manner of treatment of the horses will not be tolerated by the public, and we as TRUE FANS of this sport should SCREAM WITH OUTRAGE if we have direct knowledge of a situation such as the one outlined here. THANK GOD this horse WILL HAVE A CHANCE. Kudos to TOM and DC for their efforts, although I am sure if you ask them the only reward or recognition they want is the health and happiness of Nopie. Sorry to ramble.
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There is no way someone who is charged with training and/or taking care of horses should treat an animal this way. But sore and hurt horses are run all around this country every day. If a trainer cant look a horse in the eye and do what is RIGHT, he needs to go into auto racing and get the hell out of horse racing. When it comes down to it, this manner of treatment of the horses will not be tolerated by the public, and we as TRUE FANS of this sport should SCREAM WITH OUTRAGE if we have direct knowledge of a situation such as the one outlined here. THANK GOD this horse WILL HAVE A CHANCE. Kudos to TOM and DC for their efforts, although I am sure if you ask them the only reward or recognition they want is the health and happiness of Nopie. Sorry to ramble.
There are bad people in every business. The guy obviously is dirt.
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Old 03-03-2009, 11:57 PM
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GW was named the Trainer of the Year in South Dakota last year and I find that hard to believe. I will be writing to the Racing Commission for the states of Nebraska and South Dakota to complain about the treatment that Nopie received. There was no excuse for not wrapping his injury or giving him pain medication - I sent a cashiers check for 75% of the purchase price (remainder to be paid upon receiving the horse), I gave the vet my billing address to cover his bills, agreed to pay GW an additional $200 for taking care of Nopie until we could get him out of Fonner Park - I did everything to show that I would take responsibility for this horse and he couldn't even provide basic care for Nopie. It's unacceptable and I don't think this man should make his living at the expense of the well being of horses. If you have found this story to be half as disturbing as I have, please help Tom and I do something about it. Call or write to Fonner Park, the State Racing Commission, animal rights groups, anyone who can do something that makes this guy realize that what he did isn't right and won't be tolerated.

You've got it DerbyCat.

I don't think either one of us are your "stereotypical" California liberals. I'm sure as heck not.

I think most here have been following racing long enough to understand why sore horses are asked to run....and maybe sometimes it's not as bad as an outside observer might think.

But that guy sounds like an arrogant and ignorant arsehole.

Guess that's why he's in South Dakota and Nebraska.


If nothing else, I'd like some public grief to at least cause him to jump through some uncomfortable sharpened and flaming hoops.....with his nads dragging.

But hey, that's just me.


I grew up and fell in love with this sport watching tracks that probably were havens for some trainers to run horses with injuries that should have kept them FAR from a track. Years later, I know better.

I'm gonna fire off my sniper shot type emails to some of his legislators.

Not bleeding heart stuff, but razor sharp stuff.

Again, credit and admiration to you and Tom and all those who have cared.
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standing ovation for DC and Tom!! be proud of what you've accomplished.
safe travels and happy long life to Nopie.
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Very unfortunate that you and the horse had to go thru all you did. GW needs to be strung up by his you know whats!

Best of luck to both of you and as many here, look forward to the pictures and updates on Nopie
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GW was named the Trainer of the Year in South Dakota last year and I find that hard to believe

I don't find it hard to believe at all, those kind of awards are generally based on win percentage not care and treatment of his stock...
I can think of a trainer out there right now who holds several leading trainer titles for meets around here who appears to be an absolute butcher when it comes to his lesser stock...and who knows? maybe his stronger horses too...
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DC and Tom:

Thanks for the regular updates throughout. Bravo to you both for all your hard work and perseverance.

All jokes aside, this is my nominee for thread of the year.

Well done.
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Nopie is finally headed home!
Good Work.
I think I read maybe the first post of the original thread, and I kind of rolled my eyes , and basically thought it was a case of wishful thinking, - where nothing would come of it.
Checking back with the latest posts and wow, Great job in getting things done!
Congrats to Scav as well, there's a tough negotiator right there.
He really "stuck his foot in the door" before it could slam shut.

Nopie looked like a real character in the winner's photo you posted earlier.
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Nopie is scheduled to arrive at Golden Gate Fields Friday morning. He'll be staying in the barn of Steve Sherman, Nopie's original trainer. Steve is going to make sure Nopie gets plenty of rest, lots to eat and a visit from the vet on Saturday. Nopie will be vanned to GEVA on Sunday and will begin his R&R to recovery.

Saturday will be a great day for me, my filly is in the 8th race at GGF and I'll get to see Nopie for the first time since he left California for Turf Paradise. I actually think I'm more excited to see Nopie than to watch O Firefly race (probably because I'm not expecting her to win ). I'll be heading straight to the barn when I get to the track and will visit with Nope for quite a while, I've got his carrots ready and I'll even bring him some apples. I'll have photos up Saturday night so you can see him.

On Sunday I'll be going up to Sonoma to meet Nopie at his new home at GEVA. They've been getting a lot of rain and their paddocks are all mud but it looks like Nopie will be staying warm and dry in the barn - A big thanks to GEVA for making room for Nopie, they've got a lot of horses but they're making room for one more and I appreciate it.
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I actually think I'm more excited to see Nopie than to watch O Firefly race (probably because I'm not expecting her to win ).
Best wishes!

I do note the ML favorite and a card without Russell....
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I wanted to update all of you on Nopie. He's doing really well at GEVA, making friends with all of the volunteers and eating everything put in front of him. The leg seems to be doing well, he's standing on all four and not favoring any one leg. He's playful again and seems to be happy. I'll be going to see him again this weekend and will post photos then. My pictures from last time have him looking rather lethargic.

Now for the update on "The Story of Nopie" - this has taken on a life of it's own. I received this e-mail this morning in reply to my e-mail to the Nebraska Racing Commission:

Dear Chelle
Just to let you know, we are looking into this, but it is hard to follow up on as everybody has been reading about Nopie on the internet... I hope Nopie is doing well, and I have spoken to Mr. Ecoffey about the incident... Thank you for bringing this to our attention...
Rich Berggren



"reading about Nopie on the internet..."? Besides post here on DerbyTrail my partner wrote about it on her blog as well (and it was picked up by a couple other bloggers as well). She received a few replies from the blog, one of which told her (and I'm paraphrasing here so as not to completely identify this person):

Hi, I am from Grand Island NE. I just read the story of Nopie....I've known GW for a long time and am not surprised at how this horse was treated.... Anyway, the list of people who received this letter along with me, are people who do, or have raced in NE. I am so glad this was brought out! Good luck with your efforts, and best of luck with Nopie.


My partner replied to this person and asked who she heard about Nopie from (we wanted to see which rescue group was telling the story), and this was the person's reply:

I'm not sure who got the story, but it is out to horsemen in NE, so that's wonderful!
...I'm glad you went through all the work you did to save Nopie. If he were still with GW, he would've had him put down, instead of finding him a loving home where he still serves a purpose of giving people joy by being around him!



Wow! The story of Nopie was told to horsemen all over Nebraska! So people have been reading about Nopie and GW has been confronted about this, that's great! And then my partner received this comment post on her blog (this has not been edit or corrected in any way, it is exactly as it was written):

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "The Story of Nopie":

Lady you are a nut. First off when you tell a story that is susposed to be true you should get you facts streight. On Turf Paradise is a dump and doesn't have a polly tack it is hard as hell. You would know that if you was realy a horse person and not just a crack pot. After reading your story I went to GW's Barn and did some investagating and What I have found was GW's runs a tight ship every groom only takes care of a small number of horses so that they each get the individual care. Legs done up every day. One of the best feeding programs in the circut. GW's horses always look good and well taken care of. It amazes me that someone would do something like that to anouther person like you are doing with your false and wacked story that was full of fiction would make a good minnie movie though maybe you sould start writing fiction storys I will buy your books.

WTFP,
were is this world going to these days.



Now I admit, my partner did write, incorrectly, that Turf Paradise was an all weather track in her very long post on this story but this reply is over the top. The poster really zeroed in on one insignificant fact and then proceeded to say how great GW takes care of ALL his horses - that's not what the story is about, it's about his care of one horse - and this seems like a really defensive posting to me... I wonder who wrote it? The president of the GW Fan Club?

I believe I have struck a nerve with this trainer, which was my goal, and negative attention was focused on him which I believe he deserved. Nopie is safe at home now and is getting better every day. My focus is now completely on Nopie's care and future, Nebraska is in the past. Thank you to everyone who shared the story of Nopie with others - any attention put on life after the track for injured race horses is a good thing - there are so many rescue groups that take care of retired horses that need more attention and help, anything you can do for GEVA, Old Friends, and others like them is appreciated more than you can imagine.


Thank you for caring about one broken down gelding,

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Deer Lady you are a nut. you should get you facts streight. You would know that if you was realy a horse person and not just a crack pot.
I agrre. it would make a good minnie movie though maybe you sould start writing fiction storys I will buy your books if i could only spell and reed..

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Like I said before, major kudos for what you did. I have a strong feeling that the industry (and the rest of the world) would be better off with more "crack pots" like you.

Looking forward to some pictures !
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I wanted to update all of you on Nopie. He's doing really well at GEVA, making friends with all of the volunteers and eating everything put in front of him. The leg seems to be doing well, he's standing on all four and not favoring any one leg.

DerbyCat, good job all the way around.

I'm happy to be able to share your story with others....and I have. :-)

Hoping for the best for all, but as the cards play you certainly have earned a "mission accomplished" on your goals and completed efforts.

I'm proud to be able to have a claim you as an internet and horse racing friend!

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