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Old 07-30-2006, 12:25 PM
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Default Castellano is one lucky rider

Although he is not of the status of Edgar Prado or John Velazquez on the East coast, the one thing that he can say for himself is that he has rode three of the most talented horses that have graced a racetrack in the last five years....Ghostzapper, Bellamy Road, and now Bernardini...and I believe he would tell anyone who would listen that Bernardini is the best of the three when it is all said and done...

Unbelievable.
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Old 07-30-2006, 12:27 PM
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Better then Zapper, come on...And you are a sheet player so you KNOW how fast Zap used to run
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Old 07-30-2006, 12:36 PM
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Better then Zapper, come on...And you are a sheet player so you KNOW how fast Zap used to run
The thing is though, Zapper was running fast as an older horse with several starts under his belt, while Bernardini is still impriving with every start - yet he won a Classic with ease in his 4th lifetime start and then came back and had a public workout against a decent bunch of 3YOs yesterday....

Sheets are only good for evaluating a caliber level of horses that you haven't seen run before...non-mainstream horses....But, for top class horses that are in the spotlight for everyone to watch, good horse analysts don't need to see any quantifiable figure to see the brilliance in a horses and his performances.....he's a beast..

Not to undermine the Zapper, but he didn't exactly blow away Roses in May in the '04 BC Classic......and I think Bernardini would urinate on Roses in May in any race at any time...

Bernardini could be as good or better than Zapper....no doubt in my mind about that...
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Old 07-30-2006, 01:32 PM
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The thing is though, Zapper was running fast as an older horse with several starts under his belt, while Bernardini is still impriving with every start - yet he won a Classic with ease in his 4th lifetime start and then came back and had a public workout against a decent bunch of 3YOs yesterday....

Sheets are only good for evaluating a caliber level of horses that you haven't seen run before...non-mainstream horses....But, for top class horses that are in the spotlight for everyone to watch, good horse analysts don't need to see any quantifiable figure to see the brilliance in a horses and his performances.....he's a beast..

Not to undermine the Zapper, but he didn't exactly blow away Roses in May in the '04 BC Classic......and I think Bernardini would urinate on Roses in May in any race at any time...

Bernardini could be as good or better than Zapper....no doubt in my mind about that...
I feel like the reason you think Bernardini "could urinate" on Roses in May is because you just saw him win impressively yesterday.

Come on, Joel...

Roses in May was really fast, and won the world's richest horse race impressively in the Dubai World Cup.

I guess you think Bernardini could urinate on Pleasantly Perfect and Electrocutionist also.... I mean, they didn't win the Jim Dandy so obviously....

This horse has won TWO races of any significance
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Old 07-30-2006, 01:58 PM
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I was never that impressed with Roses in May. He beat the hanging Perfect Drift in the Whitney, he ran a decent but very non threatening 2nd in the Classic. He won the Cornhusker, whatever that means. He won a very watered down Dubai WOrld Cup against a bunch of over teh top turf horses, whoopitdooo.

Bernardini is already a better horse and has the potential to be up there with Ghostzapper and Skip Away someday, if these guys keep him on the racetrack.
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Old 07-30-2006, 03:03 PM
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I was never that impressed with Roses in May. He beat the hanging Perfect Drift in the Whitney, he ran a decent but very non threatening 2nd in the Classic. He won the Cornhusker, whatever that means. He won a very watered down Dubai WOrld Cup against a bunch of over teh top turf horses, whoopitdooo.

Bernardini is already a better horse and has the potential to be up there with Ghostzapper and Skip Away someday, if these guys keep him on the racetrack.
We want ver know just how good he will be if he goes on and wins the BC this year. Whale if he wins the BC it will show a very nice horse but we will never know his true greatness. They wil retire him with only 6 total races and a great horse needs more than 5 total wins.
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Old 07-30-2006, 04:28 PM
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I was never that impressed with Roses in May. He beat the hanging Perfect Drift in the Whitney, he ran a decent but very non threatening 2nd in the Classic. He won the Cornhusker, whatever that means. He won a very watered down Dubai WOrld Cup against a bunch of over teh top turf horses, whoopitdooo.

Bernardini is already a better horse and has the potential to be up there with Ghostzapper and Skip Away someday, if these guys keep him on the racetrack.
I completely agree.....Roses in May never beat anything in his career IMO...
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Old 07-30-2006, 04:27 PM
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I feel like the reason you think Bernardini "could urinate" on Roses in May is because you just saw him win impressively yesterday.

Come on, Joel...

Roses in May was really fast, and won the world's richest horse race impressively in the Dubai World Cup.

I guess you think Bernardini could urinate on Pleasantly Perfect and Electrocutionist also.... I mean, they didn't win the Jim Dandy so obviously....

This horse has won TWO races of any significance
Yep, but he won them in his 4th and 5th lifetime starts...that is what isd so impressive...he has been totally untested since he broke his maiden and isn't even at his best yet....the scary thing is that he'll only get better...
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Old 07-31-2006, 02:13 PM
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The thing is though, Zapper was running fast as an older horse with several starts under his belt, while Bernardini is still impriving with every start - yet he won a Classic with ease in his 4th lifetime start and then came back and had a public workout against a decent bunch of 3YOs yesterday....

Sheets are only good for evaluating a caliber level of horses that you haven't seen run before...non-mainstream horses....But, for top class horses that are in the spotlight for everyone to watch, good horse analysts don't need to see any quantifiable figure to see the brilliance in a horses and his performances.....he's a beast..

Not to undermine the Zapper, but he didn't exactly blow away Roses in May in the '04 BC Classic......and I think Bernardini would urinate on Roses in May in any race at any time...

Bernardini could be as good or better than Zapper....no doubt in my mind about that...
You and I have been agreeing on this for awhile now...The horse we have all been waiting for has arrived. A great horse as great as the big ones of the 1970's. We all thought he was Barbaro, but in fact, the one that we waited for came into greatness under our noses in the Preakness. Bernardini is a monster and a freak. He is the only horse that has completely left me speechless after a race. Bring Flower Alley on. He won't beat this horse. No horse will as long as Bernardini runs his race. Bernardini has the best gallop I have ever seen. It is so fluid and powerful. He could have won by 25 lenghts this weekend if Javier would have asked him to go.

Yes, he is here...finally. Enjoy him.

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Old 07-31-2006, 02:16 PM
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You are right...The horse we have all been waiting for has arrived. A great horse as great as the big ones of the 1970's. We all thought he was Barbaro, but in fact, the one that we waited for came into greatness under our noses in the Preakness. Bernardini is a monster and a freak. He is the only horse that has completely left me speechless after a race. Bring Flower Alley on. He won't beat this horse. No horse will as long as Bernardini runs his race.

Yes, he is here...finally. Enjoy him.
Are you related to Gary Stevens?
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Old 07-31-2006, 02:17 PM
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You are right...The horse we have all been waiting for has arrived. A great horse as great as the big ones of the 1970's. We all thought he was Barbaro, but in fact, the one that we waited for came into greatness under our noses in the Preakness. Bernardini is a monster and a freak. He is the only horse that has completely left me speechless after a race.

Yes, he is here...finally. Enjoy him.
Oh my dear lord... I can't get over how dramatic this post was. Honest to God...
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Old 07-31-2006, 02:23 PM
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Laugh at me now if you want to. You won't be laughing at the end of the year. Do you all not recognize a truely great horse when you see him? I mean what that horse did in his last three races was unbelievable, and he is improving. This is the best horse I have ever seen live by far. He is Ghostzapper quality, and for a three year old, that is scary.
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Old 07-31-2006, 06:31 PM
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You and I have been agreeing on this for awhile now...The horse we have all been waiting for has arrived. A great horse as great as the big ones of the 1970's. We all thought he was Barbaro, but in fact, the one that we waited for came into greatness under our noses in the Preakness. Bernardini is a monster and a freak. He is the only horse that has completely left me speechless after a race. Bring Flower Alley on. He won't beat this horse. No horse will as long as Bernardini runs his race. Bernardini has the best gallop I have ever seen. It is so fluid and powerful. He could have won by 25 lenghts this weekend if Javier would have asked him to go.

Yes, he is here...finally. Enjoy him.
So you believe he's as good as Secretariat?
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Old 07-31-2006, 09:48 PM
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So you believe he's as good as Secretariat?
I will hold further judgement on him since I have reopened a window of controversy. I'll let Bernardini do the talking for me, which I am sure he will.
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Old 07-30-2006, 12:30 PM
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Although he is not of the status of Edgar Prado or John Velazquez on the East coast, the one thing that he can say for himself is that he has rode three of the most talented horses that have graced a racetrack in the last five years....Ghostzapper, Bellamy Road, and now Bernardini...and I believe he would tell anyone who would listen that Bernardini is the best of the three when it is all said and done...

Unbelievable.
Not yet of the caliber of EP or JV, but I wouldn't call him "lucky".
I'd call him "skilled".
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Old 07-30-2006, 12:31 PM
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Not yet of the caliber of EP or JV, but I wouldn't call him "lucky".
I'd call him "skilled".
You know what I meant....he is obviously a good rider...
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