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Old 08-22-2008, 01:39 PM
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Why cant Mike Iavarone just admit he is afraid to race vs Curlin in a REAL dirt race. He knows Curlin is dirt horse and not a turf or Poly horse, so he is keeping BB away from dirt. So now he wants a match race which would give BB a HUGE advantage. Why not just run in The Clark Hdcp at CD which is a Grade I with a 500k Purse in a race with OTHER horses. If BB is a great horse like they believe then run him in a real race on the dirt. Not as some side-show act on NBC at halftime of a ND game.



SARATOGA SPRINGS - Seabiscuit vs. War Admiral, the sequel? Everyone has been calling for a showdown between Big Brown and Curlin, and yesterday, appearing on the morning OTB TV show, Michael Iavarone of IEAH Stable proposed a match race between the two colts, to take place after the Breeders' Cup. Before the Belmont, Iavarone was dead-set against a match race, but since then, he said privately, his research has revealed they are not inherently dangerous; "and besides, our horse will be in front by 10."

His idea envisioned the race being held at Churchill Downs during half-time of a Notre Dame football game, with IEAH and Jess Jackson, Curlin's owner, each putting up $2 million, winner take all. The last day of Churchill's fall meet is Sat., Nov. 29, but the Notre Dame-USC game that day does not begin until 8 p.m. eastern. No response yet from the Curlin camp.
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Old 08-22-2008, 01:47 PM
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Well that got me fired up.
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Old 08-22-2008, 01:54 PM
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Well that got me fired up.

Next Iavarone will challenge Curlins camp to a race where Curlin is connected to a sulky carrying Rosie O'Donnell while BB runs without a jockey.
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Old 08-22-2008, 02:48 PM
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Here Come The Irish!
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Old 08-22-2008, 03:00 PM
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This is probably pretty obvious, but I'm guessing it has something to do with the fact that he represents an organization that feels (rightfully so) that they have absolutely nothing to gain an everything to lose. What if, hypothetically, he freaks and beats Curlin? Does anyone really think BB is better??!! Not hardly. Of course if he loses, he'll be relegated to "tallest pygmy" status in a year that was exceptionally light in talent, thus negatively impacting his initial fee. It's a lose - lose for IEAH.
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Old 08-22-2008, 03:05 PM
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This is probably pretty obvious, but I'm guessing it has something to do with the fact that he represents an organization that feels (rightfully so) that they have absolutely nothing to gain an everything to lose. What if, hypothetically, he freaks and beats Curlin? Does anyone really think BB is better??!! Not hardly. Of course if he loses, he'll be relegated to "tallest pygmy" status in a year that was exceptionally light in talent, thus negatively impacting his initial fee. It's a lose - lose for IEAH.
Actually it's the complete opposite. For breeding purposes he has zero to lose. If he loses to Curlin does not effect his fee for breeding. He isnt expected to beat Curlin. But..if he wins the fee will move up substantially. Iavarone is just chickens#it. He has NOTHING to lose by running vs Curlin.

The fact is BB was all out in The Haskell to beat a horse that really isnt any good. Ivarone knows deep down that his horse would get crushed in a dirt race vs Curlin.
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Old 08-22-2008, 03:01 PM
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Like the coach....dislike the program though. It has been rather entertaining watching them flop the last few years.
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Old 08-22-2008, 03:05 PM
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Like the coach....dislike the program though. It has been rather entertaining watching them flop the last few years.
Curlin is in a different world then big brown, Big Brown would not get close to Curlin, Curlin wins for fun
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Old 08-23-2008, 07:03 AM
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Old 08-22-2008, 03:23 PM
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Why cant Mike Iavarone just admit he is afraid to race vs Curlin in a REAL dirt race. He knows Curlin is dirt horse and not a turf or Poly horse, so he is keeping BB away from dirt. So now he wants a match race which would give BB a HUGE advantage. Why not just run in The Clark Hdcp at CD which is a Grade I with a 500k Purse in a race with OTHER horses. If BB is a great horse like they believe then run him in a real race on the dirt. Not as some side-show act on NBC at halftime of a ND game.



SARATOGA SPRINGS - Seabiscuit vs. War Admiral, the sequel? Everyone has been calling for a showdown between Big Brown and Curlin, and yesterday, appearing on the morning OTB TV show, Michael Iavarone of IEAH Stable proposed a match race between the two colts, to take place after the Breeders' Cup. Before the Belmont, Iavarone was dead-set against a match race, but since then, he said privately, his research has revealed they are not inherently dangerous; "and besides, our horse will be in front by 10."

His idea envisioned the race being held at Churchill Downs during half-time of a Notre Dame football game, with IEAH and Jess Jackson, Curlin's owner, each putting up $2 million, winner take all. The last day of Churchill's fall meet is Sat., Nov. 29, but the Notre Dame-USC game that day does not begin until 8 p.m. eastern. No response yet from the Curlin camp.
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Old 08-22-2008, 03:28 PM
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I'm quite sick of the attention they're getting. BOTH sides. They don't run their horses enough to talk smack. These horses and their owners are pussies and I have no interest in watching them face one another.

One race isn't going to mean jack and s.hit. Real athletes compete against one another all of the time. Horse racing's top athletes are about as interesting as Men's Doubles Table Tennis bronze medal match. WGAS.
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Old 08-22-2008, 03:38 PM
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I'm quite sick of the attention they're getting. BOTH sides. They don't run their horses enough to talk smack. These horses and their owners are pussies and I have no interest in watching them face one another.

One race isn't going to mean jack and s.hit. Real athletes compete against one another all of the time. Horse racing's top athletes are about as interesting as Men's Doubles Table Tennis bronze medal match. WGAS.

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