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07-29-2008, 05:50 AM
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SAR/DMR Stakes Beyers
BING CROSBY H.(G1)
Jul 27, Del Mar, 6 Furlongs, All Weather Track, 3-Year-Olds and Up Purse:$300,000 1 - STREET BOSS 2.20-1 BEYER: 107 Previous three Beyers: 99-103-106 T: Bruce Headley (90-18 .20) J: David Romero Flores (491-64 .13) 2 - In Summation 3.60-1 BEYER: 104 Previous three Beyers: 87-108-101 T: Christophe Clement (201-40 .19) J: Corey S. Nakatani (294-33 .11) 3 - Jungle Prince 16.60-1 BEYER: 102 SAN CLEMENTE H.(G2) Jul 26, Del Mar, 1 Mile, Turf, Fillies, 3-Year-Olds Purse:$150,000 1 - STORM MESA 7.80-1 BEYER: 95 Previous three Beyers: 96-108-88 T: W. Bret Calhoun (479-134 .27) J: Eddie M. Martin, Jr. (518-66 .12) 2 - Tasha's Miracle 5.70-1 BEYER: 92 Previous three Beyers: 94-91-72 T: John W. Sadler (359-64 .17) J: Mike E. Smith (282-46 .16) 3 - Misty Ocean 4.20-1 BEYER: 92 Previous three Beyers: 91-90-82 T: Jerry Hollendorfer (690-166 .24) J: Joel Rosario (702-99 .14) LAKE GEORGE S.(G2) Jul 25, Saratoga, 1 1/16 Miles, Inner turf, Fillies, 3-Year-Olds Purse:$150,000 1 - MY PRINCESS JESS 2.05-1 BEYER: 93 Previous three Beyers: 94-95-78 T: Barclay Tagg (274-45 .16) J: Eibar Coa (851-166 .19) 2 - Alwajeeha 8.40-1 BEYER: 91 Previous three Beyers: 83-91-79 T: Kiaran P. McLaughlin (336-81 .24) J: John R. Velazquez (723-145 .20) 3 - Zee Zee 3.00-1 BEYER: 87 Previous three Beyers: 83-86-75 T: William I. Mott (469-71 .15) J: Kent J. Desormeaux (614-107 .17) ALSO RAN: Receipt(83), Stealin' Kisses(79), Mousse Au Chocolat(64). DIANA S.(G1) Jul 26, Saratoga, 1 1/8 Miles, Turf, Fillies and Mares, 3-Year-Olds and Up Purse:$500,000 1 - FOREVER TOGETHER 9.00-1 BEYER: 105 Previous three Beyers: 100-87-78 T: Jonathan E. Sheppard (177-27 .15) J: Julien R. Leparoux (624-103 .16) 2 - Dynaforce 3.40-1 BEYER: 103 Previous three Beyers: 102 T: William I. Mott (469-71 .15) J: Kent J. Desormeaux (614-107 .17) 3 - Rutherienne 6.10-1 BEYER: 96 Previous three Beyers: 91-100-95 T: Christophe Clement (201-40 .19) J: Garrett K. Gomez (623-117 .18) ALSO RAN: Vacare(96), Lady Digby(94), Bayou's Lassie(94), Wait a While(93), Criminologist(90), Bit of Whimsy(89), Chestoria(74). ALFRED G. VANDERBILT H.(G2) Jul 26, Saratoga, 6 Furlongs, 3-Year-Olds and Up Purse:$250,000 1 - ABRAAJ 1.70-1 BEYER: 109 Previous three Beyers: 105-107-90 T: Kiaran P. McLaughlin (336-81 .24) J: Alan Garcia (783-139 .17) 2 - First Defence 3.30-1 BEYER: 103 Previous three Beyers: 99-90-97 T: Robert J. Frankel (303-57 .18) J: Javier Castellano (606-104 .17) 3 - Sammarco 21.30-1 BEYER: 99 Previous three Beyers: 99-102-86 T: Michael E. Hushion (127-34 .26) J: Channing Hill (721-88 .12) ALSO RAN: Thor's Echo(99), Black Seventeen(98), E Z Warrior(67). GO FOR WAND H.(G1) Jul 26, Saratoga, 1 1/8 Miles, Fillies and Mares, 3-Year-Olds and Up Purse:$250,000 1 - GINGER PUNCH .20-1 BEYER: 92 Previous three Beyers: 103-94-90 T: Robert J. Frankel (303-57 .18) J: Rafael Bejarano (680-141 .20) 2 - Copper State 16.00-1 BEYER: 90 Previous three Beyers: 94-79-79 T: Steven M. Asmussen (1734-378 .21) J: Shaun Bridgmohan (612-116 .18) 3 - Indescribable 10.10-1 BEYER: 87 Previous three Beyers: 81-99-97 T: William I. Mott (469-71 .15) J: Kent J. Desormeaux (614-107 .17) ALSO RAN: Moon Catcher(80), Over Under(80), Runway Rosie(74). WHITNEY H.(G1) Jul 26, Saratoga, 1 1/8 Miles, 3-Year-Olds and Up Purse:$750,000 1 - COMMENTATOR 4.40-1 BEYER: 120 Previous three Beyers: 99-106-119 T: Nicholas P. Zito (219-50 .22) J: John R. Velazquez (723-145 .20) 2 - Student Council 8.20-1 BEYER: 112 Previous three Beyers: 99-102-82 T: Steven M. Asmussen (1734-378 .21) J: Shaun Bridgmohan (612-116 .18) 3 - Grasshopper 6.60-1 BEYER: 98 Previous three Beyers: 97-87-102 T: Neil J. Howard (91-7 .07) J: Robby Albarado (709-147 .20) ALSO RAN: Notional(98), Rising Moon(97), Merchant Marine(95), Solar Flare-ARG(93), A. P. Arrow(93), Timber Reserve(77), Tasteyville(75), Cowtown Cat(57). JIM DANDY S.(G2) Jul 27, Saratoga, 1 1/8 Miles, 3-Year-Olds Purse:$500,000 1 - MACHO AGAIN 8.20-1 BEYER: 102 Previous three Beyers: 86-92-101 T: Dallas Stewart (182-25 .13) J: Julien R. Leparoux (624-103 .16) 2 - Pyro 1.55-1 BEYER: 101 Previous three Beyers: 98-87-73 T: Steven M. Asmussen (1734-378 .21) J: Shaun Bridgmohan (612-116 .18) 3 - Tiz Now Tiz Then 7.90-1 BEYER: 100 Previous three Beyers: 98-84-82 T: Eoin G. Harty (96-19 .19) J: Miguel Mena (746-110 .14) ALSO RAN: Tale of Ekati(93), Anak Nakal(81), Mint Lane(70), Da' Tara(63). FYI... The opening week baby stakes? Yikes!  SCHUYLERVILLE S.(G3) Jul 23, Saratoga, 6 Furlongs, Fillies, 2-Year-Olds Purse:$100,000 1 - JARDIN 12.20-1 BEYER: 67 SANFORD S.(G2) Jul 24, Saratoga, 6 Furlongs, 2-Year-Olds Purse:$150,000 1 - DESERT PARTY .95-1 BEYER: 78
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984. 
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07-29-2008, 06:01 AM
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Some notables from Week 1:
Mambo in Seattle 104 Pretty Carina 87 Cribnote 90 Munnings 90 Real Estate/Aquino/Visible Truth 97 Loving Vindication 104 Accredit 100 Complete list of Beyer Speed Figures from last week's stakes races: *Whitney (Sar): Commentator (N. Zito/J. Velazquez) - 120 *Alfred G. Vanderbilt (Sar): Abraaj (K. McLaughlin/A. Garcia) - 109 *Amsterdam (Sar): Kodiak Kowboy (J. Jones/G. Saez) - 108 *Taylor's Special (AP): Mr. Nightlinger (W. Calhoun/H. Theriot III) - 107 *Bing Crosby (Dmr): Street Boss (B. Headley/D. Flores) - 107 *Diana (Sar): Forever Together (J. Sheppard/J. Leparoux) - 105 *Henry Walton (Sar): Mambo in Seattle (N. Howard/R. Albarado) - 104 *Jim Dandy (Sar): Macho Again (D. Stewart/J. Leparoux) - 102 *Sea O Erin (AP): Karelian (G. Arnold II/J. Graham) - 98 *Skip Away (Mth): Shopton Lane (B. Levine/J. Lezcano) - 98 *Prairie Meadows (PrM): Wayzata Bay (J. Hicklin/I. Ocampo) - 96 *Silver Spur (LS): Seacrettina (J. Petalino/K. Tohill) - 95 *San Clemente (Dmr): Storm Mesa (W. Calhoun/E. Martin Jr.) - 95 *Don Fleming (NP): Test Boy (R. Diodoro/R. Walcott) - 95 *Luther Burbank (SR): Wild Promises (G. Gilchrist/D. Lopez) - 95 *Seagram Cup (WO): Artie Hot (N. Gonzalez/E. Wilson) - 94 *Wickerr (Dmr): One Union (R. Mandella/V. Espinoza) - 93 *Lake George (Sar): My Princess Jess (B. Tagg/E. Coa) - 93 *High Rock Spring (Sar): Stormin Normandy (R. Dutrow Jr./C. Velasquez) - 93 *Go for Wand (Sar): Ginger Punch (R. Frankel/R. Bejarano) - 92 *Mataji (Crc): Olympic (M. Wolfson/J. Santiago) - 91 *Tyro (Mth): Fellow Crasher (A. Dutrow/J. Bravo) - 88 *Passing Mood (WO): Authenicat (J. Carroll/R. Landry) - 86 *Matron (EvD): Nice Inheritance (S. Asmussen/R. Toups) - 86 *Wonder Where (WO): Northern Kraze (M. Frostad/C. Sutherland) - 86 *Mt. Rainier (EmD): Chhaya Dance (M. Chambers/S. Martinez) - 84 *HPBA (ElP): Sirmione (S. Penrod/J. McKee) - 83 *Lillian Russell (Sar): Over Forli - Chi (M. Hushion/C. Hill) - 82 *Boeing (EmD): Shampoo (D. Harwood/S. Martinez) - 81 *Ligature (Pen): Capitano (H. Motion/R. Homeister Jr.) - 80 *Middleground (LS): Early Final (W. Calhoun/M. Berry) - 80 *Denise Rhudy Memorial (Del): Fareena (L. Delacour/L. Garcia) - 80 *Wolverine (Pnl): It's a Ego Thing (R. Russell/R. Barrios) - 80 *Willy Fiddle (Boi): Lookn East (M. Williams/C. Colledge) - 80 *Willow Lake (Yav): Torrance (B. Brashears/D. Collins) - 79 *Sanford (Sar): Desert Party (E. Harty/E. Prado) - 78 *Graduation (Dmr): Babs Moossa (J. Hollendorfer/G. Gomez) - 77 *Minnesota Oaks (Cby): A. J. Bakes (T. Hoffrogge/S. Stevens) - 76 *Wine Country Juvenile (SR): Broadway Hennessey (J. Hollendorfer/R. Baze) - 76 *Larkspur (Pnl): Valley Loot (R. Allen/M. Allen) - 76 *Doc Pardee and Earl Sande (Yav): M J's Headache (T. Smith/D. Vergara) - 70 *Tippett (Cnl): Glamorous Gal (S. Hobson/T. Foley) - 68 *Schuylerville (Sar): Jardin (S. Asmussen/R. Albarado) - 67 *Mayors Cup Thoroughbred (Wyo): On the Bill Daily (C. Bergeson/T. Nielson) - 67 *Columbine (ArP): Vannacide (K. Gleason/O. Martinez Jr.) - 65 *Chenery (Cnl): Captain Bry (B. Baker/C. Gibbs) - 64 *Inaugural (Cls): Co Sassy (J. Compton/J. Ponce) - 64 *Diamondback (Yav): Engineer (R. Chappell/K. Kenney) - 62 *Tah Dah (RD): Slides Choice (T. Hamm/A. Sanguinetti) - 60
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984. Last edited by Kasept : 07-29-2008 at 05:03 PM.
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07-29-2008, 07:44 AM
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These beyer’s numbers sometimes mystify me.
Commentator got a 120 for running a 1:50.23 9F race Student Council got a 112 being 4 ¾ lengths behind. I know this sounds like a math problem but how fast did Student Council run this 9F race?
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07-29-2008, 07:47 AM
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Joe,
Should have been in 1:51.0 (or so)... Andy, CJ or DougS can answer better, but at 9f, I believe each Beyer point is about a half length, so 120-112 appears to be a fair spread.
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984.
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07-29-2008, 08:12 AM
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I thought that was a little high also, some of the spa numbers throughout the years seem to lean that way. When Left Bank won the Whitney I think he got a 121 and the 4th place horse got a 116...This is all by memory so...the numbers may be a little fuzzy.
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07-29-2008, 08:13 AM
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07-29-2008, 05:03 PM
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Complete list:
*Whitney (Sar): Commentator (N. Zito/J. Velazquez) - 120 *Alfred G. Vanderbilt (Sar): Abraaj (K. McLaughlin/A. Garcia) - 109 *Amsterdam (Sar): Kodiak Kowboy (J. Jones/G. Saez) - 108 *Taylor's Special (AP): Mr. Nightlinger (W. Calhoun/H. Theriot III) - 107 *Bing Crosby (Dmr): Street Boss (B. Headley/D. Flores) - 107 *Diana (Sar): Forever Together (J. Sheppard/J. Leparoux) - 105 *Henry Walton (Sar): Mambo in Seattle (N. Howard/R. Albarado) - 104 *Jim Dandy (Sar): Macho Again (D. Stewart/J. Leparoux) - 102 *Sea O Erin (AP): Karelian (G. Arnold II/J. Graham) - 98 *Skip Away (Mth): Shopton Lane (B. Levine/J. Lezcano) - 98 *Prairie Meadows (PrM): Wayzata Bay (J. Hicklin/I. Ocampo) - 96 *Silver Spur (LS): Seacrettina (J. Petalino/K. Tohill) - 95 *San Clemente (Dmr): Storm Mesa (W. Calhoun/E. Martin Jr.) - 95 *Don Fleming (NP): Test Boy (R. Diodoro/R. Walcott) - 95 *Luther Burbank (SR): Wild Promises (G. Gilchrist/D. Lopez) - 95 *Seagram Cup (WO): Artie Hot (N. Gonzalez/E. Wilson) - 94 *Wickerr (Dmr): One Union (R. Mandella/V. Espinoza) - 93 *Lake George (Sar): My Princess Jess (B. Tagg/E. Coa) - 93 *High Rock Spring (Sar): Stormin Normandy (R. Dutrow Jr./C. Velasquez) - 93 *Go for Wand (Sar): Ginger Punch (R. Frankel/R. Bejarano) - 92 *Mataji (Crc): Olympic (M. Wolfson/J. Santiago) - 91 *Tyro (Mth): Fellow Crasher (A. Dutrow/J. Bravo) - 88 *Passing Mood (WO): Authenicat (J. Carroll/R. Landry) - 86 *Matron (EvD): Nice Inheritance (S. Asmussen/R. Toups) - 86 *Wonder Where (WO): Northern Kraze (M. Frostad/C. Sutherland) - 86 *Mt. Rainier (EmD): Chhaya Dance (M. Chambers/S. Martinez) - 84 *HPBA (ElP): Sirmione (S. Penrod/J. McKee) - 83 *Lillian Russell (Sar): Over Forli - Chi (M. Hushion/C. Hill) - 82 *Boeing (EmD): Shampoo (D. Harwood/S. Martinez) - 81 *Ligature (Pen): Capitano (H. Motion/R. Homeister Jr.) - 80 *Middleground (LS): Early Final (W. Calhoun/M. Berry) - 80 *Denise Rhudy Memorial (Del): Fareena (L. Delacour/L. Garcia) - 80 *Wolverine (Pnl): It's a Ego Thing (R. Russell/R. Barrios) - 80 *Willy Fiddle (Boi): Lookn East (M. Williams/C. Colledge) - 80 *Willow Lake (Yav): Torrance (B. Brashears/D. Collins) - 79 *Sanford (Sar): Desert Party (E. Harty/E. Prado) - 78 *Graduation (Dmr): Babs Moossa (J. Hollendorfer/G. Gomez) - 77 *Minnesota Oaks (Cby): A. J. Bakes (T. Hoffrogge/S. Stevens) - 76 *Wine Country Juvenile (SR): Broadway Hennessey (J. Hollendorfer/R. Baze) - 76 *Larkspur (Pnl): Valley Loot (R. Allen/M. Allen) - 76 *Doc Pardee and Earl Sande (Yav): M J's Headache (T. Smith/D. Vergara) - 70 *Tippett (Cnl): Glamorous Gal (S. Hobson/T. Foley) - 68 *Schuylerville (Sar): Jardin (S. Asmussen/R. Albarado) - 67 *Mayors Cup Thoroughbred (Wyo): On the Bill Daily (C. Bergeson/T. Nielson) - 67 *Columbine (ArP): Vannacide (K. Gleason/O. Martinez Jr.) - 65 *Chenery (Cnl): Captain Bry (B. Baker/C. Gibbs) - 64 *Inaugural (Cls): Co Sassy (J. Compton/J. Ponce) - 64 *Diamondback (Yav): Engineer (R. Chappell/K. Kenney) - 62 *Tah Dah (RD): Slides Choice (T. Hamm/A. Sanguinetti) - 60
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984.
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