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Old 05-19-2008, 06:25 AM
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Default 6/7 (BEL): 140th Belmont Stakes

11th (6:25) Belmont S. (G1)

1 1/2 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $1,000,000

1 Big Brown Desormeaux K J 126 L
2 Guadalcanal Castellano J J 126
3 Macho Again Gomez G K 126 L
4 Denis of Cork Albarado R J 126 L
5 Casino Drive Prado E S 126
6 Da' Tara Garcia Alan 126 L
7 Tale of Ekati Coa E M 126 L
8 Anak Nakal Leparoux J R 126 L
9 Ready's Echo Velazquez J R 126 L
10 Icabad Crane Rose J 126 L
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Old 05-19-2008, 06:30 AM
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I was hoping to see Pyro and/or Col. John take another shot... maybe their connections will reconsider over the next 3 weeks.
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Old 05-19-2008, 06:36 AM
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Why is Tomcito in this race?? He has done enough. Try the turf for a change.
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Old 05-19-2008, 10:37 PM
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I was hoping to see Pyro and/or Col. John take another shot... maybe their connections will reconsider over the next 3 weeks.

Asmussen is the only one who might reconsider. I think they should go, but then again, I'm a sporting type of guy.

As SlotDirt stated, Colonel John's connections are meekly pointing toward the Swaps. Harty can't exactly reconsider because I'm not even sure he has the horse back yet. A friend of mine said he read that they were turning CoJo out at WinStar for approximately two weeks.

We need more trainers like Allen Jerkens who had the guts and some confidence to run Onion and Prove Out against Secretariat. Colonel John made a strong move in the Derby before Nakatani apparently lost control of him and blew the turn at the top of the lane. I think it is well within reason to think he could have gotten up for a nice second had he not lost all momentum, which we know is his kiss of death. I would have come out of the Derby and said, "let's try and get him in the Belmont, which should play to our advantage in terms of distance, schedule, and preparation." Perhaps Big Brown would still drub him, but oh well. TC comes around once. Like Jerkens or Zito with Birdstone or McPeek with Sarava, take a shot. Is potentially missing the Swaps that big a loss? I don't think so.

I know all of this is pretty much preaching to the choir, but I just get agitated at this weak mentality and unwillingness to compete. It's one thing to run horses less often, but to run and hide with those few starts is unacceptable in my eyes.
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Old 05-19-2008, 08:02 AM
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Big Brown
Casino Drive
Denis of Cork
Macho Again
Tale of Ekati
Anak Nakal
Tomcito
What about Monba? He couldn't do any worse than he did in the Derby... or could he... eep!?
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Old 05-19-2008, 08:11 AM
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Colonel John is targeting a Cali race - the Sham maybe?

EDIT: The Swaps in July actually, not the Sham.
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Old 05-19-2008, 08:32 AM
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Has the Triple Crown lost it's luster ?
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Old 05-19-2008, 08:53 AM
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Has the Triple Crown lost it's er ?
Yeah, it's aweful. A sham. No good. Not even worth going to watch. I think I'll climb trees on June 7th and act like a hairy gorilla.
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Old 05-19-2008, 09:03 AM
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We're 2 1/2 weeks away... You'll see more horses entered
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Old 05-19-2008, 12:10 PM
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One more question and I think it's fair. Do you even like horse racing? For more than 2 weeks now, almost every single post you have made has been a shot against the sport. You've sat in your glass house and thrown stone after stone.

You've ignored the questions about what you have personally done. Smart move, because it's obvious you do nothing. So, other than the ejaculating stallions, what do you like about the sport? I don't expect an answer, you're a coward, that much is clear. But, it's a fair question, because someone not familiar with your crap might wonder if you enjoy anything about this sport other than the occasional bukake shot Golden missile gives you.
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Old 05-19-2008, 08:35 AM
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I just laughed out loud when I saw Anak Nakal is being considered.

I would like to see Miner's Claim enter, but I saw he was scratched out of a stakes race Saturday at Woodbine due to illness (colic).
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Old 05-19-2008, 09:16 AM
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I just laughed out loud when I saw Anak Nakal is being considered.
I was thinking about it this morning and boy would it be familiar to see a Zito trainee jump up and run a big race in the Belmont.

I think Zito is something like 17-1-6-1 in the Belmont.

Not great, but a decent ITM % over that time. A.P Valentine, Royal Assualt, A. Hero all hitting the board at good odds. Plus Birdstone 36-1 on top in 2004.

It's three weeks away, it's only a probable list, but I'll be keeping my eye on the Saratoga workout sheets for Anal Nakal.
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Old 05-19-2008, 09:51 AM
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No Macho Again, Icabad Crane, Behindatthebar, or Ready's Echo?
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Old 05-19-2008, 09:52 AM
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Why should third string horses run is this race? Hell, even if you win in fluky year (which AIN'T happening this year), it really doesn't increase your stud value. Birdstone is a big $10,000 per shot; Commendable (possibly the worst TC race winner ever) is in frickin' Korea.

Why not try to win the Ohio Derby (May 31) instead of getting dusted at Belmont?

Before the recent mania of "running" (and I use that word advisedly) in every TC race possible, there were often quite short fields in the Belmont--four horses showed up to challenge Secretariat. BB is not Secretariat, but the rest of this lot not in the same league as BB or (probably ) Casino Drive.

As Dirty Harry might have once said, a man's got know his (horse's) limitations.
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Old 05-19-2008, 12:14 PM
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What about Monba? He couldn't do any worse than he did in the Derby... or could he... eep!?
No one thought he could do any worse than he did in the Fountain of Youth. Then came the Derby.
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Old 05-19-2008, 11:53 AM
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Big Brown
Casino Drive
Denis of Cork
Macho Again
Tale of Ekati
Anak Nakal
Tomcito
When Casino Drive wins by open lengths, are people going to say he still hasn't beaten anyone except a tired Big Brown?

Can I get 50-1 on Kent riding Casino Drive, whom I am thinking about referring to henceforth as The ACE? (Free coffee mug to anyone who can explain the nickname.)
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Old 05-19-2008, 11:59 AM
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When Casino Drive wins by open lengths, are people going to say he still hasn't beaten anyone except a tired Big Brown?

Can I get 50-1 on Kent riding Casino Drive, whom I am thinking about referring to henceforth as The ACE? (Free coffee mug to anyone who can explain the nickname.)
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Old 06-01-2008, 04:13 PM
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http://www.drf.com/news/article/95093.html

And Spark Candle to the Hill Rise.. 8 expected to face Big Brown..
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Velazquez now on Ready's Echo, Leparoux gets call on Anak Nakal.
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:53 PM
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Anak Nakal (N. Zito/J. Leparoux)
Big Brown (R. Dutrow, Jr./K. Desormeaux)
Casino Drive (K. Fujisawa/E. Prado)
Denis of Cork (D. Carroll/R. Albarado)
Icabad Crane (H. G. Motion/J. Rose)
Macho Again (D. Stewart/G. Gomez)
Ready's Echo (T. Pletcher/J. Velazquez)
Tale of Ekati (B. Tagg/E. Coa)
Da' Tara (N. Zito/A. Garcia)
Who sets the pace?
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