Champs Elysees....

[-BT-]

anyone see Ramon give that 2-5 shot an awful ride in a field of 4

that one really hurt

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[freddymo]

Originally Posted by -BT-

anyone see Ramon give that 2-5 shot an awful ride in a field of 4

that one really hurt

-bt-

Ramon stinks I have no clue why Frankel loves him

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Ramon gave him a no doubt about it perfect trip - he just lost to a better ... errrr more juiced up horse.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Ramon gave him a no doubt about it perfect trip - he just lost to a better ... errrr more juiced up horse.

I don't no what was worse the Ramon 30 lengths off the pace in his last or the bust my nut to soon try today.. HE SUX

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I don't no what was worse the Ramon 30 lengths off the pace in his last or the bust my nut to soon try today.. HE SUX

Freddy - not only was the horse in a perfect tactical position - but it was hardly an over aggressive ride.

Whenever an overwhelming favorite goes down, people look to blame the jockey first .. and sometimes they still do despite the fact he had his horse placed perfectly.

If you want to see what a horrible trip looks like - go back and watch On The Acorn's win in this race last year over dogs.

If any thread should be made about this race - it should be in regard to how the winner was hopelessly beaten by mediocre claimers in his last two races - without any excuse - and suddenly retransformed into his old self just like that.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

If any thread should be made about this race - it should be in regard to how the winner was hopelessly beaten by mediocre claimers in his last two races - without any excuse - and suddenly retransformed into his old self just like that.

Very happy he won.

I'm not redboarding... didn't play the race but the first time I ever went to the track was the 2004 Hollywood Derby. He was there, followed him ever since (... and even through the dark days when he wasn't exactly a win machine).

Good for him.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Freddy - not only was the horse in a perfect tactical position - but it was hardly an over aggressive ride.

Whenever an overwhelming favorite goes down, people look to blame the jockey first .. and sometimes they still do despite the fact he had his horse placed perfectly.

If you want to see what a horrible trip looks like - go back and watch On The Acorn's win in this race last year over dogs.

If any thread should be made about this race - it should be in regard to how the winner was hopelessly beaten by mediocre claimers in his last two races - without any excuse - and suddenly retransformed into his old self just like that.

3rd and the 4th at HWD today were both won by juicer trainers,and both looked like huge jumps in performance( for sure the 3rd race.) Mitchell has had a tough start to the meet,and I just think he had enough of the losing.What had he had? 2 wins,and 9 2nds? I really think enough was enough. Time to win some races.

[tiggerv]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Ramon gave him a no doubt about it perfect trip - he just lost to a better ... errrr more juiced up horse.

That was my thought too

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by tiggerv

That was my thought too

why do you move a horse that early in a 4 horse field?

I assume Frankel put his 2nd horse in there for an honest pace? whats the need for Ramon to tackle the field on the 3rd turn? The field was coming back to him anyways..... Acorn wasn't exactly flying late both those horses were gasping for the line

I just don't see the need to make that move with only 3 horses in the race

oh well


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[ArlJim78]

i had a feeling he wouldn't get the job done. it was a riders race, a tactical race, and he had the best horse. who else is there to blame?