"best horse I've ever ridden"

[ShadowRoll]

Oh, come on, now. Better than Fu Peg? Better than Real Quiet ?
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/23750104/

[sumitas]

I guess it's called derby fever.

John Pricci is so mod with that black dress shirt.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by ShadowRoll

Oh, come on, now. Better than Fu Peg? Better than Real Quiet ?
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/23750104/

It ain't like Fu Peg and Real Quiet were legends, so why not? Sure it's hyperbole, but the sky may be the limit with this one.

[ShadowRoll]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

It ain't like Fu Peg and Real Quiet were legends, so why not? Sure it's hyperbole, but the sky may be the limit with this one.

Let me get this straight. According to Desormeaux, his statements after winning that allowance were just puffery, heat of the moment stuff. Understandable. But then he works the horse -- JUST WORKS THE HORSE -- and he's suddenly convinced that the horse is as good, after all, as he made him out to be in his admittedly hyperbolic post-race comments?

I give jocks a lot of credence, more so than some on here, in terms of how they can help a horse win a race. I really do believe that the best ones know their animals, and know how to cater to a horse's predilections. But it seems like even Desormeaux isn't immune to the hype that seems to follow Big Brown.

I'm reading a book right now on Man o'War. After the horse showed just how good he was, everyone, including Sam Riddle tried to re-write history to make it seem like they recognized the horse's greatness from the moment they first laid eyes on him. This is kind of the same thing, except it's preemptive rather than revisionist. Everyone wants to be able to say, if BB should happen to win the Derby, "I was on to him way back when."

Maybe the horse is really as good as Desormeaux believes. But how can he POSSIBLY know that at this point?

And maybe Fu Peg and Real Quiet aren't in the highest pantheon of racing legends, but no one's going to forget them any time soon (especially Real Quiet, who's come closest to winning the triple crown since '78). We might be forgetting BB after next week.

For the record, I really like Georgie Boy. But the rational part of my brain prevents me from telling everyone he's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

It ain't like Fu Peg and Real Quiet were legends, so why not? Sure it's hyperbole, but the sky may be the limit with this one.

this statement hurts me.... it really does... fu peg was a monster. big brown, has done nothing, beat no one, and hes better then the legendery son of mr prospector ?

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Fu Peg was a monster and legendary? On what planet?

listen hoss..... he was a kentucky derby winner.... i love kent d, but comparing him to big brown at this point, is the craziest thing i have ever herd.... i am 100% positive there is no way he wins the florida derby.....and then what will kent say ?

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I agree about his statement's about Big Brown. They're ridiclous. I just disagree on Fu Peg. You know there was horse racing before the year 2000 right?

ok ok my main point is he is tons better then big brown, and i feel confident big brown will never accomplish even close to what he did, maybe i did overhype fupeg, i did slam him in that derby at 2-1, i tend to overhype horses sometimes

[jcs11204]

and i swear i slammed him with real money, i was only 15, i had a little part time job, i had my dad go put 200 to win on him for me...... i thought i was rich

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

ok ok my main point is he is tons better then big brown, and i feel confident big brown will never accomplish even close to what he did, maybe i did overhype fupeg, i did slam him in that derby at 2-1, i tend to overhype horses sometimes

How do you, or anyone else know how good Big Brown is? Kent may be off his rocker (quite possible), but he also could end up being right.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Fu Peg was a monster and legendary? On what planet?

i forgot that just any average horse wins races like the wood, kentucky derby, jerome....... second in the preakness.... chalk in the class, obviously was not himself that day

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Fu Peg was a monster and legendary? On what planet?

Planet Japan

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

It ain't like Fu Peg and Real Quiet were legends, so why not? Sure it's hyperbole, but the sky may be the limit with this one.

Kent was Formal Gold's regular rider back when he strung together a trio of Beyer figs of 125 or more.

Fu Peg or Real Quiet couldn't warm up Formal Gold when he was on his game.