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03-17-2008, 03:49 AM
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Saturday Stakes BSF's
REBEL-Sierra Sunset: 99
TAMPA BAY DERBY-Big Truck/Atoned: 93 SAN FELIPE-Georgie Boy: 92 HILLSBOROUGH-Dreaming of Anna: 103 TURF DASH-Lookinforthesecret: 101 SKIP AWAY-Gotcha Gold: 100 FLORIDA OAKS-Awesome Chic: 92 CICADA-Carolyn's Cat: 89
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03-17-2008, 03:53 AM
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You can also add Gotcha Gold with a 100, and I think that was very generous by the figure maker.
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03-17-2008, 04:05 AM
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How slow is this bunch? Well, 4 of the top 5 two turn route figs have been turned in by fillies... The boys are embarassingly bad.
2 turn routes: Alina (f) DED 01 Mar 1M 100 Eight Belles (f) FG 21 Jan 1M 40Y 100 El Gato Malo SA 12 Jan 1M 99 Indian Blessing (f) FG 09 Feb 1 1/16M 99 Proud Spell (f) FG 08 Mar 1 1/16M 99 Sierra Sunset OP 15 Mar 1 1/16M 99 Cool Coal Man GP 24 Feb 1 1/8M 98 Texas Wildcatter AQU 08 Mar 1 1/16M 98 Visionaire AQU 08 Mar 1 1/16M 98 Elysium Fields GP 24 Feb 1 1/8M 97 1 turn routes: Big Brown GP 05 Mar 1M 104 Hey Byrn GP 10 Feb 1M 97 War Pass GP 24 Feb 1M 97
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03-17-2008, 04:24 AM
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The 99 that El Gato Malo got came with the aid of a dream trip setup by a crazy three way speed duel between Massive Drama, Talk of A Cat, and Sierra Sunset.
His figure took something like a 14 point regression when he went from a perfect setup to a lousy one in the Sham.
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03-17-2008, 04:37 AM
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wow Dreaming of Anna really destroyed them...even though I know you guys say turf figures don't matter
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03-17-2008, 08:54 PM
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03-17-2008, 09:30 AM
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Not yet.. soon.
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03-17-2008, 09:40 AM
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 Thx Smu! *Turf Dash (Tam): Lookinforthesecret (J. Ness/D. Centeno) - 101 *Bill Thomas Memorial (Sun): Wind Water (C. Hartman/K. Tohill) - 101 *Skip Away (GP): Gottcha Gold (E. Plesa Jr./C. Lopez) - 100 *Rebel (OP): Sierra Sunset (J. Bonde/C. Emigh) - 99 *Mac Diarmida (GP): Stream of Gold - Ire (K. McLaughlin/E. Castro) - 99 *Crystal Water (SA): Celtic Dreamin (R. Becerra/A. Solis) - 97 *Allen LaCombe Memorial (FG): Storm Treasure (S. Asmussen/D. Meche) - 96 *WinStar Derby (Sun): Liberty Bull (T. Amoss/G. Melancon) - 95 *Tampa Bay Derby (Tam): Big Truck (B. Tagg/E. Coa) - 93 *Florida Oaks (Tam): Awesome Chic (R. Ramos/I. Rosendo) - 92 *San Felipe (SA): Georgie Boy (K. Walsh/M. Baze) - 92 *Instant Friendship (Aqu): Prince of Peace (M. Miceli/N. Arroyo Jr.) - 92 *Honeybee (OP): Eight Belles (J. Jones/R. Dominguez) - 91 *Spicy Award (Aqu): Magical Forest (J. DeMola/A. Garcia) - 91 *Pasadena (SA): Polonius (M. Pender/J. Court) - 91 *Tejano Run (TP): High Blues (G. Arnold II/J. Lopez) - 90 *Invitational (PM): Bound to Be M V P (C. Balcom/J. Crispin) - 89 *Cicada (Aqu): Carolyn's Cat (K. McLaughlin/A. Garcia) - 89 *Harry W. Henson (Sun): Tough Tiz's Sis (B. Baffert/A. Gryder) - 89 *Conniver (Lrl): All Giving (F. Stites/E. Rodriguez) - 87 *New Mexico Breeders' Derby (Sun): Run Like Fire (J. Welch/J. Bourdieu) - 84 *WinStar Sunland Park Oaks (Sun): Sky Mom (S. Asmussen/G. Gomez) - 82 *Bachman (Fon): Ittakestwobaby (D. Anderson/D. Leeds) - 81 *Portland Meadows Mile (PM): Alabama Rain (T. Longstaff/A. Gutierrez) - 80 *Love Is Eternal (Aqu): Dance Gal Dance (R. Maragh/T. Ritvo) - 80
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03-17-2008, 09:46 AM
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Great to see races at Tampa and Sunland tied at the top of that.
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03-17-2008, 10:43 AM
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If this board was like Survivor, I wonder who would be voted off first?
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03-17-2008, 10:44 AM
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03-17-2008, 10:46 AM
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(But Travis wouldn't be a contestant... He'd be the voice-over guy!)
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03-17-2008, 10:48 AM
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Well we'd just feed him to Morty.
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03-17-2008, 12:57 PM
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I really don't understand how this has turned into a three page discussion of whether or not this crop is slow so far. With the exception of War Pass, and a couple of decent races by horses chasing him last year, they've been dreadfully slow.
When every figure maker out there has figures that say they are slow compared to years past, it seems like a foregone conclusion that they are slow. Don't like Beyers? Cool, check another source. They all say this bunch is slow. "I liked the way he looked in the stretch" does not make a horse fast, it means you like the the way the horse looked in the stretch. I've seen 4K claimers who look great in the stretch at Hawthorne in the middle of winter -- shall I sign them up for the Wood, since this new style of analysis that I've learned in this thread this afternoon has taught me what equals fast? Damn all the numbers. It really is outrageous, how disconnected from racing reality some of the comments here are.
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03-17-2008, 12:59 PM
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I will ask again since no one seems to want to answer a sincere question...
Please explain the logic behind the numbers then. I really don't understand. Never claimed to understand. In fact, I said I didn't understand the logic several times. Do BSFs take pace into account?
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03-17-2008, 01:01 PM
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