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Old 10-09-2007, 09:09 AM
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Passing a Grade 1 race worth $2MM with one of the likely favorites. What is this world coming to?

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/nat...ders’-Cup.aspx
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Old 10-09-2007, 09:19 AM
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Passing a Grade 1 race worth $2MM with one of the likely favorites. What is this world coming to?

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/nat...ders’-Cup.aspx
Just won a Gr. I on a quick turnaround. Frankel is not going to spin her back a third time in 6 weeks on a gimmick track. He says she's one of the best horses he's ever had, and he'll be handling her judiciously.
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Old 10-09-2007, 10:19 AM
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Just won a Gr. I on a quick turnaround. Frankel is not going to spin her back a third time in 6 weeks on a gimmick track. He says she's one of the best horses he's ever had, and he'll be handling her judiciously.
By "gimmick" track do mean one that is known for having a HUGE SPEED Bias?
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Old 10-09-2007, 10:34 AM
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So Monmouth is a " gimmick " track?

What does that make Keeneland?
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Old 10-09-2007, 11:08 AM
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So Monmouth is a " gimmick " track?

What does that make Keeneland?
Took the words out of my mouth.
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Old 10-09-2007, 11:36 AM
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So Monmouth is a " gimmick " track? What does that make Keeneland?
Gimmicky.. albeit a different gimmick...
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Old 10-09-2007, 10:37 AM
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Just won a Gr. I on a quick turnaround. Frankel is not going to spin her back a third time in 6 weeks on a gimmick track. He says she's one of the best horses he's ever had, and he'll be handling her judiciously.
While I understand handling her cautiously, it's not like she was gutted on Friday. Her debut race looked tougher than this one did. And she's going to get 3 months off anyway. It's just hard to fathom passing a $2MM race with a horse that is legitimately one of the favorites.
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Old 10-09-2007, 10:40 AM
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He's passing because, in all likelihood, he knows she's not a dirt horse. That's why she debuted on the turf.
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Old 10-09-2007, 10:46 AM
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He's passing because, in all likelihood, he knows she's not a dirt horse. That's why she debuted on the turf.
I was thinking the same thing. It's just hard to think that an Empire Maker could not handle the dirt, real dirt that is.
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Old 10-09-2007, 10:56 AM
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Not only is her sire Empire Maker a Grade 1 winner on dirt - but her mother, the Washington state bred Rings A Chime is a Grade 1 winner on dirt as well - albeit her Grade 1 should have an asstric next to it - as it came in wire-to-wire fashion on Keeneland's old dirt track in the Ashland.
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Old 10-09-2007, 01:57 PM
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He's passing because, in all likelihood, he knows she's not a dirt horse. That's why she debuted on the turf.
That was my thought as well.

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Not only is her sire Empire Maker a Grade 1 winner on dirt - but her mother, the Washington state bred Rings A Chime is a Grade 1 winner on dirt as well - albeit her Grade 1 should have an asstric next to it - as it came in wire-to-wire fashion on Keeneland's old dirt track in the Ashland.
Empire Maker siring a G1 already makes me ill.
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Old 10-09-2007, 03:57 PM
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Philski if Empire Maker siring a grade one winner makes you ill, then your "sickness" is terminal.

Empire Maker is as well bred as a horse can be, was a terrific racehorse, has outstanding conformation and has covered over one hundred of the best mares in each of his three seasons. BBB
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I think it is tough to scratch from the BC the day of the race. Probably a preemptive measure by Frankel.

Seriously, this horse would have had a better shot in the Juv Turf race. No way she was winning the Juv Fillies on DIRT.
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Old 10-09-2007, 12:49 PM
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I think Frankel can handle it from here
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She's done enough.
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