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09-30-2007, 06:44 PM
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Poor Willie Randolph
I am sure that the segment of Mets fan that have never embraced Wille Randolph (because he is a former Yankee) will be calling for his head tonight. But if they take a good look at their team, they would see that it was not Willie's fault that they lost. Start with the Pitching, to say it has been horrible the last few weeks is an understatement. Besides Pedro's start last week and Maine's gem yesterday the whole staff has been bad. To get less than an inning from a future hall of famer today says it all. The bullpen coughed up all kinds of leads the last few weeks too. Since Mota has been off the juice, he has been just bad. Heilman is just too inconsistant, and Wagner tailed off in the second half of the season. When the Mets hired Rick Peterson, it was like the stole Jesus Christ from the A's and he knew how to fix every pitcher the Mets had. Where was all his magic in the end? You knew they had problems when they had guys like Humber & Lawerence making starts in big games down the stretch. As far as the offense, they did score runs. It seemed that they scored 6 every game, but too bad that they gave up 10. Alou, Wright and Castillio seemed to be the only guys that hit when it counted. Jose Reyes, was being touted as a possible MVP candidate at the all star break had a miserable second half of the season. He didn't hit, he made errors and he didn't run balls out. He also might have fired up a Marlins team that was probably looking for thier vacations to start. Instead they came to Shea today to stick it up Jose's and the Mets asses. When Jose went the Mets went with him. Carlos Beltran's numbers aren't bad but he this years Mets version of last years A-rod. Good numbers but no memorable clutch hits. Also Omar Minaya, did nothing at the deadling to sure up his pitching staff. I give Willie a lot of credit, he was stoic during the biggest collapse in history. I am sure that he deserves a bit of blame but he should not be the sacrifical lamb. Lets face it, when the Mets were playing great in the first 3/4 of the season they weren't saying "that Willie Randolph is the greatest manager in the history of the game". Omar Minaya better take a good look at the team that he thought was going to win the series. It doesn't need to be tinkered with, it needs to be overhauled. Because bottom line is that this was a total TEAM collapse.
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09-30-2007, 07:04 PM
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Honestly,I think they would of held on if REYES wasn't allowed to do a celebritory dance every time he scored a damn run.Damn dugout turned into a disco playground for that guy.If there is one thing Randolph did wrong it is to let that guy act that way.Every National League team has had to watch that guy do a dance in the 1st half of ball games.Fine,you want to let him act that way? People are gunna crave beating you.After that guy has rubbed people's noses in the dirt the last 2 years,of course they are trying extra hard to beat that a hole,and he won't be doing a celebration dance anytime soon...btw Those are some fly shades Rollins has.Does here where those all season.or just special for this weekend?
Last edited by SCUDSBROTHER : 09-30-2007 at 07:21 PM.
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09-30-2007, 07:19 PM
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Willie needs to be fired. That's what you get when you are the manager of one of the greatest collapses in sports history. Period.. end of story. Sure it wasn't all his fault, but he is the man in the seat of responsibility.
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09-30-2007, 08:23 PM
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When your pitching staff was as bad as his was down the stretch, what is he supposed to do? Why does everybody need to fire someone? Realistically the way they are throwing the ball they were going out early in the playoffs anyway. They were a flawed team and that flaw was badly exposed during the 2nd half of the season, not bad managing.
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09-30-2007, 09:43 PM
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thank god the season is over , this rollercoaster ride ive been on for the last week and a half has worn my patience out. thank god a break from sports after the bc. wait there is nascar-bullet in head please
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09-30-2007, 09:52 PM
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Mets, schMetz...
still Amazing after 45 years... at least with disAstros, I knew we were out of race in May...
Big market team like Mets should never miss playoffs. Cubs finally figured out spending like Yankees can buy you a Division title, and they're FOR SALE.
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10-01-2007, 02:03 AM
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10-01-2007, 06:14 AM
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 . As I said, it's not all Willie's fault, but he is ultimately responsible. The team quit on him, a top quality manager finds a way to get them to the playoffs despite all the problems down the stretch, even if the eventuality is an early exit. In my opinion, while Willie is not a bad manager, he has done nothing to prove he is above average (although I must admit my opinion comes mostly from perception, because I don't follow this all that closely, because I really don't even like baseball). I do consider myself an expert on heartbreak/dissapointment, as I have been a life-long Jets fan.
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10-01-2007, 11:29 AM
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First thing, I really do not think that they are that young of a team.Sure they have Wright, Reyes, Beltran and a couple of young unproven arms. Guys like Maine and Perez do have potential, but still have a way to go. Milliadge looks like he could be special if he ever stopped dancing and watching his home runs. As far as Pelfrey and Humber, who knows. Do you remember Isringhausen, Pulphiser and Wilson? So I think they have to tinker with this team.
As far as Randolph's x's and o's go. On the pitching side, every guy he put in imploded. No one was able to do the job. On the offense, they did score runs in a couple of these games that they lost. I believe that they lost 5 games in which they scored 5 or more. The rest of the time it was just Alou and Wright. Look how many men they left on base yesterday. It is hard to hit and run if no one gets on base. The fact that Reyes was terrible really hurt the Mets. I think that was the biggest factor to the collapse. As good as Jimmy Rollins has been in helping the Phillies surge, is as bad as Reyes has been. I think Randolph's hands were tied, what was he supposed to do bench Delgado and Reyes? It just wasn't Willie's fault!
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09-30-2007, 07:56 PM
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[quote=SCUDSBROTHER]Honestly,I think they would of held on if REYES wasn't allowed to do a celebritory dance every time he scored a damn run.Damn dugout turned into a disco playground for that guy.If there is one thing Randolph did wrong it is to let that guy act that way.Every National League team has had to watch that guy do a dance in the 1st half of ball games.Fine,you want to let him act that way? People are gunna crave beating you.After that guy has rubbed people's noses in the dirt the last 2 years,of course they are trying extra hard to beat that a hole,and he won't be doing a celebration dance anytime soon...btw Those are some fly shades Rollins has.Does here where those all season.or just special for this weekend?[/QUOTE]
I think he does some skeet shooting in between innings.
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09-30-2007, 08:18 PM
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