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Old 09-27-2007, 02:30 PM
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Why the move to Sunday this year? Hasn't it been on Saturday's in the past? Or maybe my memory is sh*t..
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Old 09-27-2007, 02:32 PM
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They heard your head would explode seeing Eng Chan and Typhoon on the same day.

I'm not crazy about the bigger races being moved to Sunday.
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Old 09-27-2007, 02:32 PM
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Why the move to Sunday this year? Hasn't it been on Saturday's in the past? Or maybe my memory is sh*t..

Im not losing it...it was on a Saturday last year...
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Old 09-27-2007, 02:33 PM
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Old 09-27-2007, 02:34 PM
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This sucks....the first NFL game I have ever been to in my life is this coming Sunday.

F me running...
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Old 09-27-2007, 02:40 PM
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This sucks....the first NFL game I have ever been to in my life is this coming Sunday.

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Jeez Kev. I've been to more games than you
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This sucks....the first NFL game I have ever been to in my life is this coming Sunday.

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The Smith Mtn Lake Trout?
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Old 09-27-2007, 02:45 PM
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The field for this "Classic" really sucks. EC is not as good as he once was and out of 14 invitees, only 2 entered. They re-opened the race and got little of note.
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:10 PM
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yeah Super Saturday is now Super Sunday to yeah compete agains the NFL. Super smart.

I wonder if the Win and your in had to do with it,
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yeah Super Saturday is now Super Sunday to yeah compete agains the NFL. Super smart.

I wonder if the Win and your in had to do with it,
ESPN shows College Football on Saturday. The only way those races could be televised was to move them to Sunday. I agree it's unfortunate but I guess it's better to have them televised nationally.
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:21 PM
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All the hating on EC.

Id love to own a horse that "isn't much" and has earned the $$ he has.

Hes not a Euro quality turf horse by anymeans...but his record here in America speaks for itself.
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:24 PM
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All the hating on EC.

Id love to own a horse that "isn't much" and has earned the $$ he has.

Hes not a Euro quality turf horse by anymeans...but his record here in America speaks for itself.
It's not " hating "....it's reality. His last race was decidely mediocre and none of his efforts this year have been particularly good. For him to be odds-on, given his 2007 form, in a supposed big race like this is a complete condemnation of the race.

You're a fan of his, that's great, and obviously we all wished we owned him, but the truth speaks for itself.
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:34 PM
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It's not " hating "....it's reality. His last race was decidely mediocre and none of his efforts this year have been particularly good. For him to be odds-on, given his 2007 form, in a supposed big race like this is a complete condemnation of the race.

You're a fan of his, that's great, and obviously we all wished we owned him, but the truth speaks for itself.

That last race is a complete tossout. How do you all of a sudden try to rate a horse 9-10 lengths off the lead, in a Grade 1 race, when his success from stalking just off the pacesitter speaks for itself. I still disagree with the posted fractions of that race as well. No way, IMO, they went that fast for the first 6 panels.
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:27 PM
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Id love to own a horse that "isn't much" and has earned the $$ he has.
My man, you just went with my all-time least favorite defense for a horse, the 'I'd love to own one like him' card.

I think I've had that one thrown at me everytime I've gone on one of my crusades against wildly overrated horses.
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He's just not what he used to be.

And what he used to be was good enough to score wins against competition that was more often than not less than stellar for the class level.

He's a fine racehorse and has certainly given good accounts of himself for most of his career, but I'm hard pressed off the top of my head to think of a time when he ran into a top-level racehorse without wilting.
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My man, you just went with my all-time least favorite defense for a horse, the 'I'd love to own one like him' card.

I think I've had that one thrown at me everytime I've gone on one of my crusades against wildly overrated horses.
always the go-to when anyone mentioned perfect drift in anything other than a favorable way.
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:35 PM
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My man, you just went with my all-time least favorite defense for a horse, the 'I'd love to own one like him' card.

I think I've had that one thrown at me everytime I've gone on one of my crusades against wildly overrated horses.

Im reaching Drugs, I know...throw me a bone here, will ya?
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Another horse to pile onto the piece of crap pile. Goes by the name of Discreet Cat.
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Old 10-01-2007, 01:29 PM
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My man, you just went with my all-time least favorite defense for a horse, the 'I'd love to own one like him' card.

I think I've had that one thrown at me everytime I've gone on one of my crusades against wildly overrated horses.
You would LOVE to own that horse. Imagine the hot babes that would chase you.. And if that didn't happen, think of all the extra money you would have to buy silky soft socks!
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:46 PM
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All the hating on EC.

Id love to own a horse that "isn't much" and has earned the $$ he has.

Hes not a Euro quality turf horse by anymeans...but his record here in America speaks for itself.
hey its not hating . just like you told me with drift-it is what is. just not the same horse he was a year or 2 ago.
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