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09-20-2007, 10:19 PM
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Anyone else think it is a total steal if Moon Catcher isn't favored over Octave? At a mile and a sixteenth it should be perfect for Moon Catcher.
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09-20-2007, 10:20 PM
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Philadelphia Park - September 22nd, 2007 - Race 9
Fitz Dixon Cotillion H. - Grade: 2 Estimated Local Post Time: 4:01 PM Race Type: Stakes Breed: Thoroughbred Age Restriction: Three Year Old Sex: Fillies Purse: $750,000 Distance: One And One Sixteenth Miles Surface: Dirt Post Horse Name Age Sex Weight Jockey Name 1 Octave (KY) 3 Filly 123 John R. Velazquez 2 Bear Now (KY) 3 Filly 119 Jerry Baird 3 Moon Catcher (MD) 3 Filly 120 Carlos H. Marquez, Jr. 4 Talkin About Love (NJ) 3 Filly 118 Stewart Elliott 5 Humble Janet (AR) 3 Filly 116 Shaun Bridgmohan 6 Syd N Carly's Rose (PA) 3 Filly 111 Frankie Pennington 7 Exchanging Fire (FL) 3 Filly 115 Edwin L. King, Jr. 8 Silverinyourpocket (KY) 3 Filly 116 David Cohen
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09-20-2007, 10:24 PM
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You're kidding....right?
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09-20-2007, 10:26 PM
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09-20-2007, 10:28 PM
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You made two points....one was that Moon Catcher should be favored. To me that borders on insanity. No, she should absolutely NOT be favored over Octave.
I'm not Octave's biggest fan by any stretch, and Moon Catcher is one of three that can win the race, but Octave is very much the horse to beat. If she loses I think I prefer Talkin About Love.
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09-20-2007, 10:31 PM
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09-20-2007, 10:43 PM
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Octave's just a horse. But she's held solid form for over a year and proved it on many different tracks. Moon Catcher ran good races at Delaware, hardly an indication of genuine ability, and Talkin About Love has beaten lessers with perfect setups. The others are in a different time zone.
You say Octave lost to Dreaming of Anna....yes when she was second to her in the BC and Dreaming of Anna rode a strong bias, and slow pace, to victory. She lost to an in form Mistical Plan off a four month layoff. And, her second to Christmas Kid was on polytrack, while Christmas Kid had form, and Octave had a tougher trip than the winner. I'm not defending her.....I'm just discussing her realistically. She beat Lady Joanne at 1 1/8, but lost to her at 1 1/4, yet you think 1 1/16th is not the right distance for her? You seem to be splitting hairs. Trust me, I'm not rooting for Octave, but she's absolutely the deserving favorite and the horse to beat. On paper Moon Catcher is not only worse but also at no tactical advantage.
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09-20-2007, 10:28 PM
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I suppose she could be a need the lead type that will burn out trying to get it in this race but I don't think too much of the cheap speed that will be dueling with her.
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09-20-2007, 10:30 PM
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Exchange Rate is a real speed and Bear Now is also supposed to go.
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09-21-2007, 02:10 AM
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09-21-2007, 02:19 AM
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Moon Catcher has higher beyer figures at the distance. I think she has a chance.
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