My early BCC morning line

[Slewbopper]

Just for yucks...Anybody have any opinions at this time?

Lawyer Ron...........5/2
Street Sense.........3/1
Anygivensaturday...5/1....My Pick
Curlin...................8/1
Field....................5/1

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Slewbopper

Just for yucks...Anybody have any opinions at this time?

Lawyer Ron...........5/2
Street Sense.........3/1
Anygivensaturday...5/1....My Pick
Curlin...................8/1
Field....................5/1

Yes, Lawyer Ron at 5/2 is the steal of the century. He will be closer to even money or 4/5, especially if he trains up to the race.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by Scav

Yes, Lawyer Ron at 5/2 is the steal of the century. He will be closer to even money or 4/5, especially if he trains up to the race.

Not with Street Sense, Any Given Saturday, Curlin and some Euros in the race. In fact, in light of his stature as a Derby winner, I'd be very surprised if Street Sense wasn't the favorite (assuming that he wins his prep for the Classic). Before we get too crazy about Lawyer Ron, while he did look very good winning at Saratoga, beating the likes of the hardly-stellar Diamond Stripes, Wanderin Boy and Sun King, let's remember that he lost his only start at Monmouth, to a Grade III horse.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

Not with Street Sense, Any Given Saturday, Curlin and some Euros in the race. In fact, in light of his stature as a Derby winner, I'd be very surprised if Street Sense wasn't the favorite (assuming that he wins his prep for the Classic). Before we get too crazy about Lawyer Ron, while he did look very good winning at Saratoga, beating the likes of the hardly-stellar Diamond Stripes, Wanderin Boy and Sun King, let's remember that he lost his only start at Monmouth, to a Grade III horse.

They said the same about Ghostzapper in the BCC and they let him off at like 5/2 or something insane. I think you should get crazy about Lawyer Ron because his figures are HEAD AND TAILS above all these horses and should/would be a stone cold single on BC Day for me. His figures are in the Ghostzapper terriotory right now and while I doubt he could improve, he could regress 4 pts and STILL win. He has been whipped twice in these last two victories, it isn't like he was all out.

Right now Lawyer Ron should be a 3/5 favorite. 5/2 would be like robbing a bank without facing the consequences.

[Slewbopper]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Right now Lawyer Ron should be a 3/5 favorite. 5/2 would be like robbing a bank without facing the consequences.

Well then post your morningline rather than giving me sh it. Who was the last 3/5 in the BCC?

Pillow Pants...wtf are those? Those bloomers that Sabu wore in Arabian Nights movies?

BTW, I got 100 bucks that says Lawyer Ron will not win the Classic. Offer good for one taker until midnight

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Scav

They said the same about Ghostzapper in the BCC and they let him off at like 5/2 or something insane. I think you should get crazy about Lawyer Ron because his figures are HEAD AND TAILS above all these horses and should/would be a stone cold single on BC Day for me. His figures are in the Ghostzapper terriotory right now and while I doubt he could improve, he could regress 4 pts and STILL win. He has been whipped twice in these last two victories, it isn't like he was all out.

Pretty much how I feel too and the horse that did beat him at Monmouth, Gotcha Gold I feel is a bit more than a Grade III horse at that particular track.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Pretty much how I feel too and the horse that did beat him at Monmouth, Gotcha Gold I feel is a bit more than a Grade III horse at that particular track.

That race is a complete toss. Pletcher goes there to get them legged up. He TRIED the same thing with Flower Alley

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Pretty much how I feel too and the horse that did beat him at Monmouth, Gotcha Gold I feel is a bit more than a Grade III horse at that particular track.

yes, people keep making the mistake of downplaying Lawyer Ron because of that race. that was a 1 turn mile, not Lawyer Rons forte, and Gotha Gold is a fast course specialist at Monmouth which can really favor sprint type speed. Lawyer Ron is a true two turn route horse and not a sprinter.

[KY_Sasquash]

Originally Posted by Scav

They said the same about Ghostzapper in the BCC and they let him off at like 5/2 or something insane. I think you should get crazy about Lawyer Ron because his figures are HEAD AND TAILS above all these horses and should/would be a stone cold single on BC Day for me. His figures are in the Ghostzapper terriotory right now and while I doubt he could improve, he could regress 4 pts and STILL win. He has been whipped twice in these last two victories, it isn't like he was all out.

Except Lawyer Ron hasnt beaten the like's of St. Liam and Roses in May. This is a weak handicap division that he's beating up on, Langfuhr doesnt scream 10F, and Lawyer Ron doesn't like 10F. GZ was running high 120s beyer.......I'll play against all day in the BC Classic

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Scav

Yes, Lawyer Ron at 5/2 is the steal of the century. He will be closer to even money or 4/5, especially if he trains up to the race.

Lawyer Ron at 4/5 or even money would be one of the easiest tosses of the century.

Let's see if he runs again before the BC Classic and how he does.

NT

[KY_Sasquash]

Originally Posted by Scav

Yes, Lawyer Ron at 5/2 is the steal of the century. He will be closer to even money or 4/5, especially if he trains up to the race.

and he'll get beat. i hope he's 4/5

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Scav

Yes, Lawyer Ron at 5/2 is the steal of the century. He will be closer to even money or 4/5, especially if he trains up to the race.

You think Lawyer Ron at 5-2 on September 4th for a race in 8 weeks is a steal? Give me a little while and the Cannon Shell future book will open. I would give you somewhere around 5-2 that he does not make it.

[ninetoone]

i seriously doubt that any horse in the BCC will be under even money.

[zippyneedsawin]

Originally Posted by Scav

Yes, Lawyer Ron at 5/2 is the steal of the century. He will be closer to even money or 4/5, especially if he trains up to the race.

I'm thinking just the opposite here. Remember, St. Liam trained up to the BCC and went off at 5/2. And if SS, Curlin, or AGS win their last prep, that's will only help his price. The 'hype' (not calling the above 3 hype horses) or 'now' horses always garner more attention. Unless everyone else falls apart, he's 2-1 minimum, IMO.

[Holland Hacker]

Green Monkey. I thought Pletcher was just going to train him up to the Classic!

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Holland Hacker

Green Monkey. I thought Pletcher was just going to train him up to the Classic!

He is but he's training him up to the 2008 Classic.

[Holland Hacker]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

He is but he's training him up to the 2008 Classic.

My Bad.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by Slewbopper

Just for yucks...Anybody have any opinions at this time?

Lawyer Ron...........5/2
Street Sense.........3/1
Anygivensaturday...5/1....My Pick
Curlin...................8/1
Field....................5/1

Hard Spun is expected to run so you should add him in. . . I think 5-1 on the field is a little low. . . I like AGS too but I'd also be interested to see if George Washington is entered and what kind of odds he is available at. . .

[31lengths]

Any chance for Rags? Or has that already been determined and I just missed it?