Bold Predictions

Ruffian2 · #1 07-03-2006, 09:09 PM

Bold Brooklynite made a prediction about Mayan King. Some berated him for it, others praised him. I do have to give him credit, he is willing to stick his neck out and make predictions. ]

So what are some of yours? Do you have evidence to back them up or is it just a "feeling?" Let's record them here, then relook at this thread in the future and see how many of us are right, and how many of us are just a lot of noise. I'm thinking I'm going to be contributing to the "noise" portion.

Here's mine: Dubai Escapade will remain undefeated the remainder of the year.

Scav · #2 07-03-2006, 09:11 PM

Shane Laviolette will not win an allowance race at Arlington, this meet, three years running.

#3 07-03-2006, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

Shane Laviolette will not win an allowance race at Arlington, this meet, three years running.

That's hilarious, is it true?

#4 07-03-2006, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruffian

Bold Brooklynite made a prediction about Mayan King. Some berated him for it, others praised him. I do have to give him credit, he is willing to stick his neck out and make predictions. ]

So what are some of yours? Do you have evidence to back them up or is it just a "feeling?" Let's record them here, then relook at this thread in the future and see how many of us are right, and how many of us are just a lot of noise. I'm thinking I'm going to be contributing to the "noise" portion.

Here's mine: Dubai Escapade will remain undefeated the remainder of the year.

That si a bold predictiuon considering she is trained by Eoin Harty, who may be a nice guy but I believe he is a bet against on most occasions...I've seen this guy over and over lead up horses that looked like they couldn't lose yet they do very frequently....Believe me, I'm a huge Dubai Escapade fan and I hope you're right, but I would want someone like Albertrani to train that filly before I made a prediction that she would remain undefeated when you could say any other horse in the world....I guarantee that she will not be 100% for the rest of here starts this year coming out of that barn, which doesn't mean that she won't win because she is pounds better than the majority of her competition..

As for Mayan King, at least he knows racing better than the Prairie Meadows morning-line odds maker...good God...I still cannot believe he made that horse 15-1

Five Star Derek · #5 07-03-2006, 10:22 PM

Maybe I'm not going out on a limb but here goes:

Henny Hughes is going to establish himself as one of the all time great sprinters even stretching out to a mile. He's at the begining of a winning streak that will see him undefeated for the rest of the year. Lost in the Fog will also go on a streak that will leave a highly anticipated matchup between these two. Henny will be the clear victor in this battle.

#6 07-03-2006, 10:26 PM

Indian Vale will go on to win the Go For Wand, as well as the Distaff.

#7 07-03-2006, 10:42 PM

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Indian Vale will go on to win the Go For Wand, as well as the Distaff.

Like many already know, I am a huge Happy Ticket guru and even I thought that Indian vale was the best Distaffer heading into this season after I saw her win last fall at CD...she is very talented but I'm not sure how genuine she is now after she flopped in the Shuvee....I'd like to see more fight out of here before I reinvest my liking towards her...at least Happy Ticket is a fighter....I still think Indian Vale is every bit as good as Oonagh MaCool from a talent perspective...just my opinion...let's see if she can rebound and salvage her season...se is by the very nice Marley Vale out of A.P. Indy so you won't see her racing for much longer before she retires to be bred...I say at the end of this season regardless of what happens....

#8 07-03-2006, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

Like many already know, I am a huge Happy Ticket guru and even I thought that Indian vale was the best Distaffer heading into this season after I saw her win last fall at CD...she is very talented but I'm not sure how genuine she is now after she flopped in the Shuvee....I'd like to see more fight out of here before I reinvest my liking towards her...at least Happy Ticket is a fighter....I still think Indian Vale is every bit as good as Oonagh MaCool from a talent perspective...just my opinion...let's see if she can rebound and salvage her season...se is by the very nice Marley Vale out of A.P. Indy so you won't see her racing for much longer before she retires to be bred...I say at the end of this season regardless of what happens....

I'm with you 100% on Happy ticket, she is a special mare. I would like to see Happy win a few more of those fights, but she is a pleasure to watch. I'm giving Indian Vale a mulligan, thinking maybe she didn't like Belmont like she didn't like Philly Park last year. I also thought she was the best coming into this year, and I think she will be vindicated. We already know she loves Saratoga, and Churchill, and 2 turns. I know she spit the bit pretty bad in the last out, but Take D'our proved last out that she is a possible force in the Distaff division, although I'd like to see her transfer those Belmont races somewhere else.

Betsy · #9 07-04-2006, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

Like many already know, I am a huge Happy Ticket guru and even I thought that Indian vale was the best Distaffer heading into this season after I saw her win last fall at CD...she is very talented but I'm not sure how genuine she is now after she flopped in the Shuvee....I'd like to see more fight out of here before I reinvest my liking towards her...at least Happy Ticket is a fighter....I still think Indian Vale is every bit as good as Oonagh MaCool from a talent perspective...just my opinion...let's see if she can rebound and salvage her season...se is by the very nice Marley Vale out of A.P. Indy so you won't see her racing for much longer before she retires to be bred...I say at the end of this season regardless of what happens....

Indian Vale's Shuvee flop was a shocker, but Todd must have found something because I don't believe she's worked since then. I wonder if she'll come back at all. That race was too bad to believed.........If she's ok, she's very talented. It would be a shame if she couldn't race again.

#10 07-03-2006, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Five Star Derek

Maybe I'm not going out on a limb but here goes:

Henny Hughes is going to establish himself as one of the all time great sprinters even stretching out to a mile. He's at the begining of a winning streak that will see him undefeated for the rest of the year. Lost in the Fog will also go on a streak that will leave a highly anticipated matchup between these two. Henny will be the clear victor in this battle.

I actually agree with a lot of this....nice prediction.......Henny is a monster in my opinion...in know he beat nothing when the Smart Strike colt and Keyed Entry both scratched, but I was VERY high on him as possibly being the most talented sprinter in the country before that race and I only needed to see a solid return to affirm my belief.....I would consider his return WAY better than I was expecting.....he is a monster and I've been warning people on ATRAB about his comeback for months....

paisjpq · #11 07-03-2006, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

I actually agree with a lot of this....nice prediction.......Henny is a monster in my opinion...in know he beat nothing when the Smart Strike colt and Keyed Entry both scratched, but I was VERY high on him as possibly being the most talented sprinter in the country before that race and I only needed to see a solid return to affirm my belief.....I would consider his return WAY better than I was expecting.....he is a monster and I've been warning people on ATRAB about his comeback for months....

Even though he may not have beaten much and certainly wasn't tested I think it's important to remember that the horse hasn't run in 7-8 months and he nearly set a track record on his return. He has logged more frequent flyer miles this year that I have in my life and he still managed to mature and come back with the same incredible speed and fluidity that made him a force as a 2 year old. I will solidly get behind this prediction.

SentToStud · #12 07-04-2006, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

I actually agree with a lot of this....nice prediction.......Henny is a monster in my opinion...in know he beat nothing when the Smart Strike colt and Keyed Entry both scratched, but I was VERY high on him as possibly being the most talented sprinter in the country before that race and I only needed to see a solid return to affirm my belief.....I would consider his return WAY better than I was expecting.....he is a monster and I've been warning people on ATRAB about his comeback for months....

Help me out. How did you come to think Henny Hughes was at/near the top of U.S. sprinters BEFORE his race last weekend? The horse hadn't run in nine months, hadn't sprinted in 10 months and hadn't won in eleven months.

Kasept · #13 07-04-2006, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud

Help me out. How did you come to think Henny Hughes was at/near the top of U.S. sprinters BEFORE his race last weekend? The horse hadn't run in nine months, hadn't sprinted in 10 months and hadn't won in eleven months.

S2S,

I can confirm that JC has been flogging for HH on "At the Races" in anticipation of his return... My answer to the question above? KMc..

You mention HH "hadn't won in 11 months", but he also hadn't been worse than 2nd in those "loses" (to Sam in the Champagne and Hopeful, Stevie WB in the BCJ).. I'd say his credentials coming back were more than solid. I saw him Belmont night in the barn, and he looked terrific. McLaughlin is as good as any trainer in the world bringing them back, and you had to figure that in the early summer of his three year old year he'd be stronger than he was as a baby. Based on his proven ability going short at 2, that made/makes him eligible to be as good as any of the sprint specialists out there.

That's my take anyway..

#14 07-04-2006, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud

Help me out. How did you come to think Henny Hughes was at/near the top of U.S. sprinters BEFORE his race last weekend? The horse hadn't run in nine months, hadn't sprinted in 10 months and hadn't won in eleven months.

I don't look for accomplishments so to speak, I try to forecast potential, and I've always thought based on his pedigree and brilliance and class as a juvenile that he'd prove to be a top class sprinter at three and as an older horse....Great sprinters are possessed with an uncanny high-cruising speed and he has it....he can effortlessly carve out a 45 second half with the jockey sitting on him like a statue...this quality is huge because he can place himself in any race in the world without exhausting himself early....that is rare....additionally, he still has a pretty good push button off of that and he showed that he is a fighter when stretching out in last year's BC Juvy to be a game second when I know 1 1/16-miles is not close to his best distance being a Hennessy out of a Meadowlake mare....that was pure class and heart that carried him that far IMO....Additionally, if you examine his stride it is simply peotic...to have that quick a turn of foot, ge looks like he does it so effortlessly and his stride is so efficient he looks like he is one of those horses that won't have to carry his track with him because his biomechanics are as good as it gets in a horses stride that he should take to any track as good as any other horse he races against.......I love this colt, and I agree that physically he is superior looking now to waht he used to look like.....Sometimes you just can tell the goods when you watch them run and he is the goods....

Betsy · #15 07-03-2006, 10:17 PM

Bernardini will dominate the 3 year old division and very possibly beat older horses.

Melhor Ainda will come back and win multiple grade 1s.

paisjpq · #16 07-03-2006, 10:20 PM

simon pure will win a grade I

#17 07-03-2006, 10:32 PM

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simon pure will win a grade I

Wow...possible I guess..I like the colt, but he may prove to be a better 4yo...Can he win the Ohio Derby?...sure, with a favorbale trip and some things going in his favor, but a Grade I?...Probably needs to really begin to improve to do that....Just not many Gr. I's left this year for him to realistically blossom and win one....BUt, I love the prediction!!!

paisjpq · #18 07-03-2006, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

Wow...possible I guess..I like the colt, but he may prove to be a better 4yo...Can he win the Ohio Derby?...sure, with a favorbale trip and some things going in his favor, but a Grade I?...Probably needs to really begin to improve to do that....Just not many Gr. I's left this year for him to realistically blossom and win one....BUt, I love the prediction!!!

supposed to be bold right? Love him, and want this for him.

paisjpq · #19 07-08-2006, 05:04 PM

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simon pure will win a grade I

this horse is going to have to get over his serious case of seconditis. Second in his last three starts! He cannot lose allowance races if he is to fufill my prediction.

paisjpq · #20 08-23-2006, 09:08 PM

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simon pure will win a grade I

considering he is entered in an A/OC on saturday, mine is not looking so good...