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Old 05-31-2006, 06:11 PM
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Default Been wanting to ask this question for 2 years now...

Now that Fisherman dismantled the ESPN board, it took me a while to get used to this. I can say today was the first time in over 2 years I did not go and sneak a peek. Props DerbyTrail.


NOW... don't flame this.
I know many of you own, breed, sell, write. There is a good balance of knowledge here.

I have always dreamed of owning a horse, but I know the costs, headaches and have no contacts.

I was wondering, Oracle,Steve,LB... why don't you guys start a partnership for some of us serious lookers? I know there are tons of partnerships out there, but I just can't stomach the fact of investing with people I don't know. I am not saying I know everybody here on a personal level, but after following everybody for two years, I would have more trust to dish out money here then anywhere else.

I know it is time in my life to try it. Some people put money for a special car, well I saved some on the side for a horse. If I lose it, I will still walk away with my head up because this is what I have always wanted. To root for my own at least once in my life.........
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Old 05-31-2006, 06:16 PM
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Now that Fisherman dismantled the ESPN board, it took me a while to get used to this. I can say today was the first time in over 2 years I did not go and sneak a peek. Props DerbyTrail.


NOW... don't flame this.
I know many of you own, breed, sell, write. There is a good balance of knowledge here.

I have always dreamed of owning a horse, but I know the costs, headaches and have no contacts.

I was wondering, Oracle,Steve,LB... why don't you guys start a partnership for some of us serious lookers? I know there are tons of partnerships out there, but I just can't stomach the fact of investing with people I don't know. I am not saying I know everybody here on a personal level, but after following everybody for two years, I would have more trust to dish out money here then anywhere else.

I know it is time in my life to try it. Some people put money for a special car, well I saved some on the side for a horse. If I lose it, I will still walk away with my head up because this is what I have always wanted. To root for my own at least once in my life.........
Lansdon would be teh best one to approach for this. I wouldnt mind picking out the horse but you want Lansdon to be the primary owner in the partnership. We can get Dutrow if we do this. Picking out a private buy is the only way to go. either a NY bred two year old who is ready to go the races or just an older horse who has already run. Babies take too long to get to the races(bills eat you alive)for a partership and you can't claim one unless you have already started one at the meet.
I'd be happy to go after one privately if i saw the right one.
I can see it in the program now under owner Lansdon Robbins and Message Board stable et al.
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Old 05-31-2006, 06:21 PM
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Derby Trail Stable.....

I would be 1000000% interested in this
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Old 05-31-2006, 06:23 PM
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I would be 1000000% interested in this
Talk to Lansdon and ask him. He'd have to buy it and then sell the shares in it. If you wanna win a race at Toga, I'd have to start looking now. We'd want one we could race at about the level we bought it for to we could get a purse and if someone claims it wed get out on it. Thats how the game is played kids.
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Old 05-31-2006, 06:27 PM
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It really depends on the financial end of it. I think people would throw down $100 or $200 but I have seen some of those shares cost $1k-$2k for one share.

Scav isn't that much of a brawler, but I would definitely throw 500 into this kitty
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Old 05-31-2006, 06:32 PM
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Mike,

Thanks for the reply. I understand that the hardest part is decision making. That is why I would trust you guys not some partnership scam.

As long as the investors do not stick their noses into your business.
I would believe you would do what is right for the horse/owners.

I would be in the 10-15K range for my part.
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Old 05-31-2006, 06:32 PM
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Steve and I, along with a bunch from the ESPN board almost privately bought a horse at Gulfstream earlier this year (ultra cheap claimer) but the trainer pulled out. I'd consider doing something. A bit tight financially for me right now trying to save to buy a condo.
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Old 05-31-2006, 08:13 PM
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I was just thinking of this the other day. I've been in a few of these as a minor partner, but I know nothing of setting one up. Like TJ, I thought this board would be a great group for a partnership. The heavy hitters could own the lion's share and us lightweights could have a small slice. If it goes, I'm down.
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Old 05-31-2006, 08:16 PM
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I'm down for $500.....I'll fly to NY to see the horse run....MIKE, find an Arlington Million horse, and check your PM's
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Old 05-31-2006, 08:25 PM
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FWIW, on the Sirius show tonight, Byk and JJ are forming partnerships for a flat entrance fee of $2800 for interest in three or four claimers.
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Old 05-31-2006, 08:35 PM
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Scav:

Any light to shed on angles for Pletcher/Frankel/and Dutrow would be appreciated - like you say you have to pick your spots because of the low odds all of the time and if you play to much your ROI will be not so good..

Thanks...
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Old 05-31-2006, 09:13 PM
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Scav:

Any light to shed on angles for Pletcher/Frankel/and Dutrow would be appreciated - like you say you have to pick your spots because of the low odds all of the time and if you play to much your ROI will be not so good..

Thanks...
I personally do not play Frankel that much anymore, especially on the dirt, I try and stay away from him

I play Dutrow/Pletcher the same way. I watch the board on them, especially on horses off the layoff. I think these both of these trainers you have to figure out the plan for the horse. Look at Silver Train for example. His MAIN goal was the Met Mile, his first two races, if you played against him, you made some loot in the pick threes and exactas. I actually try and keep the stakes schedule close to my eyes when looking at one of these horses. These guys train good horses. I would LOVE to know where there Stakes Win% is compared to other races besides Maiden races, I bet you it is double the %, but I could be wrong.
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