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Old 07-16-2007, 09:34 AM
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Default RAGS TO RICHES: Fever.. No Oaks..

A fever will keep Belmont winner Rags to Riches from contesting the Coaching Club American Oaks..

The Todd Pletcher trained sensation missed Sunday's scheduled final workout ahead of the anticipated start, with hopes that she would drill Monday. Little else was said from the Pletcher camp who had been planning to provide the entire field for the 12f Grade 1 standard, first run in 1917.
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Old 07-16-2007, 09:37 AM
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Writing was on the wall when she missed her work yesterday. Now we get to watch Pletcher's 7th, 8th, and 9th string fillies square off in a G1. I wonder if they will train up to the Alabama now or consider the Dandy.

I'm sure ESPN is thrilled they adjusted their schedule to carry the race.
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Old 07-16-2007, 09:40 AM
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I am thrilled because that means I might get to also see her run on when I am at Toga, along with Street Sense, huge fan
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Old 07-16-2007, 09:42 AM
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Did they delay the Monkey's work because of Rags, or did he come down with a fever as well?
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Old 07-16-2007, 09:43 AM
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I am thrilled because that means I might get to also see her run on when I am at Toga, along with Street Sense, huge fan
I'm kinda doubting she goes in the Dandy so she will probably train up to the Alabama. The Test/Travers double would be a pretty cool achievement if they wanted to prove her greatness.
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Old 07-16-2007, 09:44 AM
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This is interesting after ESPN dumped Del Mar opening weekend for this race.
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Old 07-16-2007, 09:46 AM
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Bummer. I hope it really is just a fever.
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Old 07-16-2007, 12:27 PM
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I'm kinda doubting she goes in the Dandy so she will probably train up to the Alabama. The Test/Travers double would be a pretty cool achievement if they wanted to prove her greatness.

looks like it's she'll train up to the Alabama then point to the BC.
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Old 07-16-2007, 12:39 PM
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I'm kinda doubting she goes in the Dandy so she will probably train up to the Alabama. The Test/Travers double would be a pretty cool achievement if they wanted to prove her greatness.
The Test would be an utter impossiblility.

To make a five furlong cut-back with an A.P. Indy offspring, exiting a very slow paced marathon, would be all the makings for a big upset loss. Where she is at right now, that race is simply way too sharp for her.
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Old 07-16-2007, 12:40 PM
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The Test would be an utter impossiblility.

To make a five furlong cut-back with an A.P. Indy offspring, exiting a very slow paced marathon, would be all the makings for a big upset loss. Where she is at right now, that race is simply way too sharp for her.
It would make a good betting race if she went in
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Old 07-16-2007, 12:51 PM
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Sometimes I wonder about these kind of things.

If I was in Pletcher's position...after the Belmont Stakes win, it would have been very tempting to use some gamesmanship, and say Rags to Riches next race will be the Coaching Club. With the race being 10 furlongs at Belmont, he can basically scare off horses, forcing some decent ones who could have impacted the outcome to not even nominate, let alone not point for the race.

Which ever one of the five other Pletcher horses nominated to this race that runs, will probably have an easier go of it now that some of the other competiton has been scarred off.
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Old 07-16-2007, 12:52 PM
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The Test would be an utter impossiblility.

To make a five furlong cut-back with an A.P. Indy offspring, exiting a very slow paced marathon, would be all the makings for a big upset loss. Where she is at right now, that race is simply way too sharp for her.
I completely agree...especially considering a horse like Dream Rush could be eight lengths in front of her when they straighten away.

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Old 07-16-2007, 12:55 PM
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The Test would be an utter impossiblility.

To make a five furlong cut-back with an A.P. Indy offspring, exiting a very slow paced marathon, would be all the makings for a big upset loss. Where she is at right now, that race is simply way too sharp for her.
No doubt that she would have to be as great as people are making her out to be to pull it off. Would be a lot more fun to see than the Alabama will be.
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Old 07-16-2007, 01:04 PM
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The Test would be an utter impossiblility.

To make a five furlong cut-back with an A.P. Indy offspring, exiting a very slow paced marathon, would be all the makings for a big upset loss. Where she is at right now, that race is simply way too sharp for her.
Disagree to an extent, while I understand your angle Society Selection (a certified Toga freak) pulled off the CCA run-Test-Alabama, and while SS was a top quality filly I'm positive Rags is better than her (and is competing against a weaker crop, for that matter.)

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Sometimes I wonder about these kind of things.

If I was in Pletcher's position...after the Belmont Stakes win, it would have been very tempting to use some gamesmanship, and say Rags to Riches next race will be the Coaching Club. With the race being 10 furlongs at Belmont, he can basically scare off horses, forcing some decent ones who could have impacted the outcome to not even nominate, let alone not point for the race.

Which ever one of the five other Pletcher horses nominated to this race that runs, will probably have an easier go of it now that some of the other competiton has been scarred off.
Very possible. But then again, she might just have a fever.
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Old 07-16-2007, 10:52 AM
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Little else was said from the Pletcher camp who had been planning to provide the entire field for the 12f Grade 1 standard, first run in 1917.
is the race back up to 12f this year? the last couple years it was 10f, but before that it was 12f, but before that it was 10f, but before that it was 12f.
i'm not kidding. they change it every couple of years: http://www.pedigreequery.com/index.p...ld=view&id=932
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:13 AM
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It is ten furlongs this year.

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Old 07-16-2007, 11:47 AM
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I wouldnt be surprised if we never get to see her race again. Dont think that will happen, but I wouldnt be surprised.
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Old 07-16-2007, 12:19 PM
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I wouldnt be surprised if we never get to see her race again. Dont think that will happen, but I wouldnt be surprised.
These owners are fans, I think we will see her through this campaign.
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Old 07-17-2007, 04:01 AM
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How about the 1 1/8 Go For Wand (28th) against older which is the day before the Jim Dandy? Would give her three weeks til the 'Bama and four til the Travers. The GFW might come up pretty soft with the Del Hcp having just been run on Saturday.


Aw, what the hell, put her in the Whitney on Dandy day.
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